The Crusaders will continue to look for some light at the end of the tunnel. Today they head to St. Francis, a mid-table team.
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Stepinac at St. Francis Prep, 1 p.m.
No one Stepinac plays at this point should be referred to as a mid table team. They are not even a shadow of the team they should be!
Poughkeepsie faces Kingston at 2 pm today at SUNY New Paltz in a Coaches vs. Cancer. Should be interesting to see how the Pioneers match up against the 12th ranked Class AA team in the state…
Do you understand what the term “mid-table team” means?
St. Francis’ record is 11-3 and currently fourth among the seven CHSAA BQ teams.
They are in the middle of the standings or table, therefore they are the definition of a mid-table team.
So if stepinac wins their 4th game do they move up in the JN top 10?
Beast-you are right about not being even close to the team they should be. I would think with this talent (?)they would be doing better? That’s about 4( at least) total blow outs.
Time for a change! I was hoping the Iona game would be a test but this coach doesn’t even get these kids up for pure pride. They have been blown out by 30 plus at least three times. I may be wrong but they have only one single digit loss.
I agree. I hate to be critical of any coaches, particular at my alma mater, but the new coach has to go. Getting blown out left and right is embarrassing. The coach obviously lost the players – it looks like he may have never have had them. This isn’t a great Stepinac team, but they have enough talent to be competitive. Losing by 30+ to St Peters and St Francis Prep is inexcusable.
Do you remember when the Stepinac coach came on the blog after he was hired? He asked everybody to give it time and give him a chance. Ha
Iona won’t blow Step out by 30. They don’t play that way and Step matches up better with them
Kingston over PK 76-56. This young team needed a game like this to show them how much more they need to work.
Not disappointed with the result. Time to push harder!
Ouch!!! What the heck is going on at Step? At this point I am questioning everything.
Yes I remember that! How long until football season?
Didn’t like seeing seeing Poughkeepsie lose, but Kingston is very good this year. There’s a reason why the Tigers are ranked 12th in the state. This game should have the Pioneers ready for the challenges posed by Lourdes on Wednesday and Beacon on Friday…
Likewise. On a bright note, Pok was up 27-21 until Kingston went on that 17-4 run to take control of the game.
Rumor has it Stepinac is focusing on their swim team, who just won the chsaa division. Big things ahead, hear they are raising another 2 million dollars to put in an olympic size pool.
Lol. Clever. Stepinac is just waiting for football season WP. Hopefully WP wants to play and makes happen. Teams should open up year against one another.
Hey josh or dan who are the top 10 canidates for mr.basketball halfway through the season?
Rumor has it Justin Tucker is transferring…I hear Stepinac or Iona..
The word is Jordan Tucker is going to open a new Catholic school so this league can get back to where it once was. From 1985 to 2008 the best league in the USA. Today one can argue it may be 3rd or 4th best league in the tri state. If he does transfer it will be to NJ OR PREP. The two schools you mentioned are B-level HS teams when it comes to traveling and playing a national HS schedule. He is a major recruit,so go play with the big boys or just stay at WP.
The CHSAA is the #2 league in the tri-state. It is better than the PSAL and I don’t even know the other league you are talking about. It has more depth than the PSAL and is better at the top. It isn’t close to where it was from the 80s and 90s, but look at the stats this season.
Loughlin- 3rd place at the Beach ball classic losing only to a top 15 team nationally
CTK- Won STop-DWI tourney
St Francis- dominates a Northeast tourney
Hayes- stayed home for the holidays, but are still a top 25 team nationally
Molloy- placed 3rd in the Gonzaga tourney in DC losing only to the champ in a very tight game
All I am saying is that people are getting too spoiled with the CHSAA. Just because they aren’t the best league in the country anymore, everyone trashes them. To do what the PSAL and CHSAA have done is incredible if you look at it. They are all battling for the best talent, and they also have to deal with the prep schools coming in and stealing some of the best players.
Matt good points, not to mention the huge amount of chsaa alum playing d1 right now and several playing, coaching, commentating at the NBA level. However right now the Chsaa as is extremely top heavy. Hayes and CTK are nationally ranked right now, loughlin is border line.
The rest of league is down from both talent and coaching. St rays had 3 high major d1 recruits when they won it in 2012, not so much now. Traditional programs like Xaverian and Holy Cross were excellent and in a matter of 2-3 years they fell off big time. All Hollows has completely fell off a cliff. And the closing of Rice certainly did not help, not to mention the days when power memorial and tolentine were open.
Good league but not the same and unfortunately more schools will continue to close. Times are changing.
That’s a really tough question. The race is wide open. I wouldn’t even know where to begin. Give me a minute to think about it. Josh and I are planning to do a mid-season recap of sorts next week.
The young man you refer to will not transfer to Stepinac or Iona. Because he is a Freshman going into Soph year he could transfer to a CHSAA school but he would have to play JV . He would not be allowed by league rule to play Varsity. If he transfers it will be to a prep school most likely.
When was the last time WP beat Step on a football field or a basketball court? 2009? 2010, maybe?
You bring up an interesting about travelling and national schedules. You seem to value travel and national schedules much more than college coaches. There are plenty of teams that travel, yet don’t have many D1 players. Someone above brought up Hayes – Hayes didn’t travel this year over Christmas, but they are the #1 team in the city and have easily 6-7 D1 players. MV travels to Hawaii every year and they didn’t have a D1 player last year and may or may not have a low D1 player this year.
I know Coach O’ Donnell is reading all these posts. He is huge into the social media. Please make a coaching change! As an alumni of Stepinac and a 4 year basketball player it is embarrassing to see the product that is on the court. They are not a team to win a city championship but are good enough to compete at a high level and not lose by 30+ points most games!
I have to say I am shocked about what has transpired at Stepinac this year with the state of their Basketball-
Coach Philip built the program where it had fallen on hard times to a team that made it to the CHSAA Semifinals and was the best team in the Hudson Valley last year- I knew when he resigned it would be difficult to replace him- He was great at marketing the school and was aware of ALL the young talent that would be ready to play in High School- He did not leave the program in this type of shape- Stepinac has 3 returning players in King, Thomas and Miller who should have Stepinac in every game they play-Plus they have some good complimentary role players-
I never want see a person loss his job but I hope the new coach turns around the results quickly before the losses start to steamroll out of control.
Naim Thomas? I know he is putting up numbers but I have not seen any recruiting info. The fall signing period has come and gone. What is holding up his signing?
They have talent this year as you know. I don’t know the new coach personally, so I don’t want to be too harsh on the guy, but looking at the results this year he clearly is not coaching this team well at all. Losing in this league is one thing, but losing in blowout after blowout is a matter of coaching. He clearly lost the team, it looks like he may never have actually had the team. I’m an optimist, but I don’t see how a coach can get a team back at this point. I wish I could say I think they’ll turn it around, but with the current coach, I just don’t know if I see it happening. If they make a coaching change this month, maybe they have a chance to turn it around and make some noise at least against Iona. This Stepinac team has enough talent to be competitive against the better teams and beat the middle of the road teams.
You make very good points about the way Philip marketed program and recruited. But understand you still have to coach! You don’t win COY in the chsaa AA going up against coaches like Curran, Alesi, Leary, Fraher, etc. because you market well, again, you have to know how to practice, scout, and prepare the right way, no matter what league you play in and of course the kids have to buy in and play defense.
Coaching a varsity basketball team in the chsaa AA and running an entire program is very difficult. Being competitive and winning is another story.
Before the league changed to power rankings, the talk around the league was that Stepinac, Mount, Hayes were dominating the A league and a change needed to be made, hence the league/athletic directors voted on having power rankings. Still not sure why Iona wasn’t moved up from its inception because they certainly should have.
All it takes is for a coaching staff from top to bottom to change and you will see just how important coaching/teaching is.
IP is right that they have 3 valuable players whom returned in Thomas, King, Miller, thought the season could be a 500 type of season.
Iona was not moved up due to a certain coach who originally did not want to move into the AA making a statement and voting Fordham Prep number 3 in the power rankings which dropped Iona and kept them from up.
Everything everyone is saying is 110% true. Make a coaching change and save this season! If not for the Alumni, schools, and fans, just do it for the seniors who only have a month and a half left! It’s not fair to them!
When was the Last Time Stepinac actually wanted to Play White Plains ? The Last Time They Played Each Other White Plains Won by Double Digits. I Think That Was Coach Mayfield’s 300 Victory as well. The coaching Staff From White Plains Should Take Over. Stepinac Would Be Cream of The Crop. Wp coaching staff would do wonders there.
Mayfield is a good section one coach but the CHSAA would eat him up just like Palisade Prep did last year.
Mayfield has more experience then half the coaches in Ny state. He was an NBA SCOUT FOR 23 YEARS HIS CONNECTIONS ARE MIND BLOWING. You want to win you get Mayfield there kids would Flock to that School. The program would be ran the right way. Kids would be College Ready. What’s happening at Stepinac is a joke. Oh and Wp played Stepinac this Summer WP WON BOTH GAMES with Stepinac at Full strength
Bballfan- please talk what you know. Naim did not play in either game this past summer against WP. Kids not college ready?really? Down year yea, new coach yes. But please talk what is true.
Last time stepinac/ white plains played stepinac beat them in the first round of the slam dunk, then went on to win it beating Greeley in the championship, I think it was 2010 or 2011. Counting wins/loses in summer and/or fall leagues is getting desperate (teams usually never have full squads).
Kids would flock to stepinac? White plains has been terrible the last 2/3 years because they are not a program like Mount Vernon. The only reason they are good is because Demello transferred in because the coaching change at Kennedy. Tucker was going to Stepinac until coaching change happened there.
College ready? Right now Stepinac has a dozen kids playing college basketball (all levels) and two playing professionally overseas. Josh James not ready? Tony Taylor not ready? The only one that wasnt ready was Kilpatrick who didnt qualify then redshirted his first year, shouldve graduated 2 years ago.
Down down year for Stepinac absolutely but white plains and Mayfield has had there share.
Put down the hallucinagens!!!
First of all, the last time Stepinac and White Plains played on the basketball court was 2010-11…and Stepinac won 52-40. White Plains did beat Step 46-44 in 2009 – thats hardly a double digit victory. Coincidentally, WP’s 46-44 win in 2009 was the last time WP has beaten Step in football or basketball – thats over 4 years! 3 football wins in a row and the 12 point basketball win.
As far as getting ready for college, that was a funny one. Tony Taylor, Conroy Baltimore, Josh James and numerous DII and DIII kids all qualified and were ready to play as freshmen from Stepinac. WP has had some great players recently, but unfortunately it seems like many or most of them are non-qualifiers.
WP is a good program. Mayfield is clearly a very good coach, but don’t get ahead of yourself. There is a big, big difference between playing against MV, Scarsdale, Mamk, New Ro and playing Hayes 2x, St Rays 2x, Loughlin, Christ the King, Molloy, etc, etc.
Someone who coached lesser talent at Fordham Prep should not lose to that same team with the better players on his side. Obviously, Hermann can’t coach. The only reason he competed on the JV level is because most, if not all programs, had their premier Sophomores up on their Varsity teams.
Varsity in the CHSAA is a whole different ball of wax. He’s out of his league and will never be allowed in because he talked so much junk before the season started. Other coaches are running up the score (not taking starters out) on him to teach him a lesson. Too bad it’s at the expense of his players.
P.S. I remember when he came on this blog and said his team was going to “Rock” this year. Sorry Pal, but they aren’t “Rocking” under your leadership – or lack there of. There is a big difference between talk’ers & do’ers.