Rye players and fans celebrate their 17-7 victory over Harrison, during boys football game at Harrison High School Oct 15, 2011. ( Frank Becerra Jr / The Journal News )
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Sorry Josh, but i was excited to hear jim and Garnet10580 have returned. They came back. If you are a loyal lohud bloggers which i am and hitting 10 thousands posts over the Winter. Thats what 10k means for some of us special bloggers. You would understand all of our relationships..
obsessive – - i dont know about that. Big Joe and i go to alot of games (3 in one day) and we were even talking about following Section 1 Champ thru the Sectionals. Being on the blog and thank you to Josh for keeping it going and being the “EL Capitain” you learn more and build more insight on other teams. Honestly, alot of bloggers missed you guys!
And my wife thinks I’m nuts!!! LOL
If Rye plays POK the first round of the playoffs, if thats how the chips fall. Rye has a good chance on winning by controlling the clock and keeping Oliver off the field. Charter is the HB, very good and fast!
Husky 10k – Did you play in the rivalry? If you did I am surprised that you think a section title trumps winning “The Game”.
Rye FB said it best, anyone who played in the game can remember their senior season game like it was yesterday. I can’t remember the score of the game our season ended on though. And I was fortunate to play for a team that beat Rye and went to the state semi-finals in my senior season.
Obviously, this is only my opinion, but I would be shocked if the majority of former players didn’t agree that winning “The Game” means more than a section title.
Monroe-Woodbury and Aquinas lost in the same week. Not great timing for the traditional powers right before the playoffs.
Husky We’ll see how Rye’s defense does againt such a multi talented and speedy backfield…who’s coach knows how to take advantage of it….
I would like to see Rye play Pk.That would be some game.
Garnet 10580 and Jim:
Missed you most of this year. Stick around!
I’ve seen lots of comments, and agree wth most of my fellow Husky bloggers (and lots of Rye people) about the state of the rivalry. We’ve all discussed the x’s and o’s ad nauseum, but at this point, I think the biggest hurdle for Harrison is mental. Forget Artie’s in-game mistakes and whether he adjusts his game plan or works with the talent he has (this seems to be a challenge for him). You can’t pressure high school players to the point where they think if they lose one game, ther sun won’t come up tomorrow. This is how kick-offs get fumbled at the 4, and punts glaze off players and are recovered by the opposition. Kids need to play loose and focused. This has not been the case with Harrison against Rye. And Artie shouldn’t put the same pressure on himself. I honestly thought Harrison had the better team the past two years. Great run for Rye.
Former Husky – -yes i did play and won Junior and Senior year. I was talking about the present time, with all the playoffs. Its alittle different now. Yes i won my Senior year, but i wish we won our Bowl Game too. As i said, if you win both, its the sprinkles on the cake! IMO..
I was alittle upset that Hilliard didnt have more touches. I said on Saturday night on the blog, Rye was awesome, their line, and their backs were the 2 best players on the field. They ran HARD!! Hilliard had about 7 carries. I was talking to a former running back from Harrison and played for Wagner, he said it takes more carries to just get the feel of the game. Hilliard is definitly Harrison X-Factor. I wish Artie would put the rock in your big time players hands more! The same goes for Ricciardi at Syracuse, i think he had 4 or 5 runs.
Someone posted, if you take a cat scan of Artie’s head, you would see Dino… If it was said by Rye or Harrison fan, i thought that was hillarious!!
As many bloggers have said, and rightly so, these things do run in cycles. This is Rye’s time – won’t last forever, but it is Rye’s time for a number of reasons. Harrison had their run as well in the 90’s. I do agree that coaching has won Rye the close games they’ve won recently even though I believe Harrison had the better team in a few years ( see 2006, 2010, 2011).
It was a bit puzzling on Sat why Harrison didn’t try and exploit Rye REALLY crowding the line of scimmage, especially as they seem to have some speedy weapons. I was waiting for that but it never came. On the other side, for all those Artie bashers – he did take the team to the state finals last year. Not too shabby. Rye was sitting home watching.
As I’ve said before – many Harrison fans may not know that alot of Rye fans root for them every game – excecpt this one. We want to see a strong Harrison team – makes “the game” all that much better. Good luck the rest of the way, Huskies.
And Go Garnets!!
If and when Rye plays PK (if they win next week) I think a good an interesting game also…but PK 21-14
Just want to say one final thing to the huskie fans, if the game meant nothing to you why do you continue to put down Rye 2 days later. IT’S OVER!!!!! You and all fans from Harrision and Rye know it is the only GAME in town and that will never. You were totally dominated, so think about it for another year. Yes it’s great to win the “A” championship and go to the dome. But we all know that beating Rye or Beating Harrison is the best.
Again, Rye 17, Harrision 7. Good luck to boy Rye and Harrision this weekend.
Iluvrye-I don’t see anyone putting Rye down here, and I don’t know where you get that the game didn’t mean anything to Harrison fans. Maybe a stray comment or two, but that’s about it. The big issue on our side seems to be in-game coaching and game planning.
jim, welcome back. ARe we (Husky, Prince, Wing T & myself) forgiven??
Excellent point by 3 Yards. When was the last time this happened:
“Imagine this time next week:
No playoffs for Rye, Harrison and Nyack in class A. Playoffs for both Clarkstown North and Clarkstown South in AA. What has become of the section 1 football world.”
old and in the way…love the moniker! We are old and in the way, the both of us… were just not into the new wave trash talk which seems to be the only way the game, it’s history, fun, meaning to the kids, schools and community etc etc can be discussed now….
Can both Rye and Harrison make the playoffs and if they can does that mean they could possibility meet again this season?
Wow Jim is back
GO NewRoc Doubtful. Lot of things have to Happen for Harrison to even get in…then 2 upsets for both teams not going to happen. Likely Rye vs PK in first round which should be perhaps one the more interesting games in the tounament for class A
Obsessive-cheers to you, and remember; “a little touch of grey kinda suits us anyway”.....best of luck to the Garnets here on out.
If there was ever a vote to have the Piner or not, the Piner would always pass.
Most teams need it, there are only a very few major programs
now they have Greeley
Im thinking the pattern does not get disrupted, and Harrison gets a win
Artie is coming under such major heat in H-town – all because he’s lost to Rye 9 times in a row ( given, not a good thing). Rye was apoplectic back in the 90’s when HHS ran the table on us, How serious is this – just hyper-fans wanting him out or serious thoughts to his being booted by the school admin? I’m a Rye fan (obviously) but look at Artie’s body of work – last year he took a good, not great, Harrison team to the state finalsl last year. Of course – they did commit the major sin of losing to Rye. Guess the question to Harrison fans is – does losing to Rye not compensate for making the state finals. If I had to guess I’d say no – what say ‘ye?
Cheers back old! You’re a voice of reason here…get those wippersnappers under control….LOL
Who is garnet center? I understand 66 was supossed to be very good but i thought Rye C won battle…
Rye and Harrison can both make the playoffs if Rye beats Lakeland, Harrison beats Greeley and Byram Hills beats Beacon. In this scenario, the playoff structure would place Rye as the third seed in League 1-A and Harrison as the fourth seed. If both Rye and Harrison were to win their first round playoff games (Harrison over Pok and Rye over PR), then they would play each other again in the second round.—Unlikely but possible.
This happened in 2002 and 2003. In 2002 Harrison beat Rye twice, once in the regular season and secondly in the playoffs. In 2003, Rye beat Harrison twice.
Garnet Dad – - very well said. The guy (Artie) has great accomplishments against other teams. Lastyear Artie’s 1st team defense let up 7 points to Wallkill and Powerhouse Burnt Hills. NOT BAD!!! Remember The Game usually get 6 – 10 thousand fans, this year 2,500 and 1,500 were Harrison fans who were there to see the streak snapped.
If BEACON loses, Rye and Harrison win. Is Rye #3 and Harrison #4? oops i just read Piner Math and he read my question, Thank You!
Sorry, im typing too fast haha, Piner answered my question!! hahaha
To Rye and Josh – I had some pre – game posts refering to being in enemy territory and joking around about my cloths with my man Prince and LIL Pelham. If i offended any of Rye fans , i apologize! We were all joking around. It was done under fun Lil Pelham came back at me asking, i needed more gel for my hair, and if i had a Big H tattooed on my arms, and my winning scores tattooed of the Harrison / Rye game on my back. That was a good one Lil Pelham! But to Rye, it was no offense
Garnet Dad-your points are well-taken. Coach Troilo has indeed amassed quite a successful record, including 2 championships in B, several Section 1 titles in a short span of time in A, and that great run to the Dome last year. The calls for his removal largely come from his recent failures against Rye. I’ve heard some parents that are friends of mine from town site other instances, but I think winning “The Game” will make some of that (not ALL of it) go away. The problem I reflect the comments he made last year; that the Rye game was “the most important of his career”. That is a self-centered stance, and it puts awful pressure on a bunch of High School kids. It’s as if they made that run to the Dome AFTER that pressure was lifted, and they played like they had nothing to lose. It just seems as though he wins vs Rye only when he has far superior talent, and if the talent pool on each side is even, or if Harrison is slightly better, Rye wins. For the majority of Rye’s 9 wins, they were the better team. But in 2006 and 2010, and perhaps this year, that was not the case. It seems Artie just doesn’t want to adjust his system to the type of talent he has, and this year was no exception. And those kids play this game very tight, which is a reflection on his approach. If they are ever going to beat Rye again without far superior talent, they need to do something real hard to do. The coaching staff and the players need to take the pressure off themselves, and approach the game like it’s just one more tilt on the schedule. Play loose and focused. Otherwise, look for the streak to grow.
After watching the tapes,there were numerous reasons for a Harrison loss.The key reason being the inability to stop Rye’s running game,which basically wore down the Husky D.Rye controlled the line of scrimmage a higher percentage of the time on both sides of the ball.Also,as a result,they controlled the clock.Their play book was outstanding.Harrison on the other hand played tight,close to the vest football,trying to establish some kind of running game through the option,which eventually let to their demise.Thought this would be the game where Harrison would really opened it up.Also,no blitz packages?????
I was going to go away again for awhile, but I wanted to leave a few of my thoughts about Rye-Harrison on the table before the door hits me in the butt on the way out.
1) Section 1 Guy and I were kibbitzing while walking back to the parking lot after the second Rye-HHS game in 2002. John and I discussed Rye’s future. The horizon then seemed very bright for the next 4-5 years, but John told me…and I swear…that Rye may not lose another game within the section for a long time(they wound up winning 59 in a row) and he forsaw an 8 or 9 out of 10 streak for Rye over Harrison. Artie was coaching Harrison at the time and Dino was coaching Rye, but it was Dino who was in the hot seat…not Artie. Now Dino is the mastermind and Artie is a dunce. Go figure.
2) With all that in mind….I will say that Dino, his main assistant for all those years Tommy Maloney, and his new defensive asst. Mike Bruno know how to stop the triple option. All of the Harrison bloggers who have been writing this are 100% correct. I also agree that Vinny Nicita would be better utelized in another offensive scheme, but the triple has worked for Artie against everyone EXCEPT Rye. Would and could Harrison have won all those games against everyone else (except Rye) last year running out of the shotgun or powerI ? The old expression is that you have to dance with the girl that brung ya ( or something like that).
3) I did not see Harrison as having a higher level of talent this year. I may have thought that before the game, but during and after it was over it looked to me that Rye was a better and bigger team. With the exception of one 2nd quarter drive by the Huskies, the Garnets controlled the ball and the game. Last year I did think that by gametime Harrison had more healthy talent on the field. Eck played with his right hand sewed together. Fellow captains McReddie and O’Callaghan and a slew of others were hurt. In fact, if Rye and Harrison played in week #1 last year Rye may have won more convincigly and Harrison may have crushed Rye if they had played early this season.
4) Rarely have I seen a cool customer like freshman QB Andrew Livingston. Not enough emphasis has been put on his performance last Saturday. I am told by everyone that he is a natural leader and a great kid. Can you imagine four months ago he is graduating middle school, and in a flash he is quarterbacking the Garnets against Harrison? Unbelievable.
5) Kudos to Dino Garr and his staff and his great captain Jake Meyerson for making the adjustments in order to keep both Livingston and Meyerson on the field at the same time. Meyerson has been paying his dues while playing behind Eck for two years. You just know that he has been dreaming of leading Rye at the QB spot since he was a tyke, but he has made the switch to tailback in aspectacular fashion…for the good of the team…no drama..no BS…for the good of the team.
6) Another observation from just before kick-off…Rye was stretching and staying loose, throwing and running sprints until about 15 seconds before the Mello Awards were given out. Harrison was just standing around for 10 minutes. Could this be why Harrison came out a little tight ?
7) I thought the field and the entire venue was great (congrats to Big Joe!) but lots of fans evidently got scared off by the pre-game hype about parking and lack of seating and stayed home. The atmosphere was also electric, and I feel that Harrison did everything in their power to accomodate the large crowd. Next year when the game is at Rye the fans will be able to set up their tailgates and saunter into the stadium at the last minute. In the future both Rye and Harrison fans just have to get there early to get a seat at McGillicuddy.
10528-I think Rye won because they were able to control the clock with their lines vs. Harrison, and the Huskies didn’t open it up and force them to chase, taking away some of their effectiveness. Would love to see the Garnets do the same against the likes of POK, but don’t see it happening. POK is very strong defensively even on the line, and their whole offensive game is to run away from you with their terrific skill players. I see this as a very bad matchup for Rye.
Old-It’s hard to believe Rye lost any games this season.Our wins against common opponents were meaningless in “the game’.Rye plays Harrison like a musician plays a fine violin.Dino knows exactly what he’s doing.The players know exactly what they’re doing.They dictate the pace & the tone.If you don’t adjust to them,they will wipe you out every time.9 games in a row is pretty convincing in my book.It’s time for a major change in the Husky camp,if they expect to uphold the powerhouse tradition of Harrison Football….
Rye just wore Harrison down with their size, those kids fought hard but they were outweighed by about 50 pounds per man across the line.
Hello everyone in Section I. I find a couple of things odd. You want to run a guy out of town who took his team to the State Title game last year and gave the State Champions their second best game of the year.. The guy must be doing something right. I also find it odd that all the way across the state someone is announcing that Aquinas lost 3 weeks before the States even begin.
you cant beat rye then its time for a change
Section V its obvious you’re not from or familiar with section 1 or the Rye Harrison game. You can go to a state title game all you want but what matters the most in Rye or Harrison is winning this game. State championship is just the cherry on the top. Troilio can go 10-1 every year or however many games you play including the state championship if you get there. Point is if that 1 loss is Rye or other way around Harrison, the season was pretty much a failure or close to it.
Piner Math? and obsessive
Thanks for the information regarding the Rye-Harrison playoff situation.
Husky 10 no need to apologize here, sincere or not. Good natured ball busting is part of of the fun. It’s only when it gets personal, juvenile or really stupid that it crooses the line.
I’m from Rye and I have great respect for the Illustrious history of Husky football…the town and the schools. What would Rye be with all their great tradition without the Huskies to measure themselve against….and what would the Huskies be without Rye’s great tradition to measure themseves against? When either beats each other it’s a DAMN accomplishment!
This is what makes it so remarably great…after nearly a century of rivalry, with all the changes all around us…. IT’S STILL HERE! Harrison is still ahead, but it’s close, which make it all the more interesting, and the envy of all the other wannaby rivalries., there is nothing like it around here…not even close!
BTW – How did you all Rye fans enjoy our New Staduim?
Loved it…better sight lines then Feely field. Parking and tailgatings a bit of an issue, and so many memeries at feely, but it is a better venue!
I liked the new stadium but for this caliber game I wonder if it was a good thing. Very weird watching the Rye Harrison game at a new venue but I liked it. I agree sight lines in some areas are better but maybe thats not the best thing. At Feely you had more bleachers, or bigger bleachers and more standing room. Now you have less bleachers and less standing room especially on visitor side. Try to expand bleachers although I know on the visitors side thats not possible with the woods and rocks. No tailgating and traffic was worse I think. I think it should go back to Feely field. Just for the fact of tradition and space but like I said the new field is nice just not for this game
I hear you and stand corrected. The AQ/Mcquaid rivalry is the biggest in V. There were 2 different occasions when AQ lost to Mcquaid and it did not take the luster off of the state title. Maybe losing 9 times in a row would be a problem.
when are they going to change the playoff format so Rye and Harrison can meet in the State Finals? great regular season rivalries have been played in the state title- bergan vs bosco in nj. Union Vs Jenks in oklahoma. How great would that be Rye vs harrison in the dome
Coach Garr has Coach Troilos number, Doesn’t it seem that way?
I think Rye is peaking at the right time
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