Bowl game schedule (Updated)
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I confirmed with Section 1 that the Roosevelt-Poughkeepsie game on Saturday will be held at 5 p.m. and the Haldane-Tuckahoe is now at 2.
Here’s the bowl game schedule that I’ve gathered so far:
Thursday
Lincoln at Mahopac, 5 p.m.
Mount Vernon at Arlington, 6 p.m.
Scarsdale at Clarkstown South, 6 p.m.
Ketcham at John Jay, 6:30 p.m.
Friday
John Jay-EF at Rye, TBA
Carmel at Suffern, 5 p.m.
Blind Brook at Valhalla, 6 p.m.
Gorton at Clarkstown North, 6 p.m.
Ossining at Somers, 7 p.m.
Saturday
Eastchester at Harrison, 2 p.m.
And the Section 1 Championship Weekend schedule:
Saturday
Class D
Haldane vs. Tuckahoe, 2 p.m.
Class A
Poughkeepsie vs. Roosevelt, 5 p.m.
Class B
Sleepy Hollow vs. Nanuet, 8 p.m.
Sunday
Class AA
New Rochelle vs. North Rockland, 1 p.m.
Class C
Croton-Harmon vs. Bronxville, 5 p.m.
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WHERE ARE THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAMES GOING TO BE PLAYED—IS IT AT MAHOPAC?????
Big Joe
All Section I titles are at Mahopac This Weekend…I wonder why they left Memorial Field in the first place? but yeah Mahopac yet again for the five games
somers ossining game should be interesting. somers comes out on top by two touchdowms
Kevin just wonder why it seems as if the Journal news now is only interested in state playoffs this time of year. Yes they are important butthere are a lot of teams still playing and attempting to finish in good fashion. I know with the new format a champion can be crowned but what about the also ran they count too.
I think they switched because Mahopac has turf
How can a team 0-8 make a bowl?
CONFUSED
They are not really “Bowl” games. Just games that some schools still want to play. I know Mamaroneck is playing Port Chester too. As far as Mahopac goes they won the bidding since Memorial Field started to erode. I bet since this is the last year Mahopac has the rights to host White Plains will get them next with their beautiful new field.
I think the HHS vs. EHS game should be played at Rye.
Lourdes at John Jay East Fishkill- great matchup section one…an A school vs a AA…this section is run like crud!
WOW
Lourdes/JJEF not happening.
But JJEF (the sixth largest AA school with a BEDs count of 1642) will play Rye (the third smallest A school with a BEDs count of 646).
Should be interesting how Rye does the week following a devastating loss against a school 2.5 times its size.
Mamaroneck is rebuilding their field and will have turf and lights next season. It looks like Mamk discovered themselves late after going down 3 losses, and the sophomores and jr’s contributed late enough to get in that “play in game” Next year watch out for these guys, Im sure Ramapo will want revenge too. Any PC fans? how do they look?
Garnet10580,
I agree the Rye/JJEF matchup is intriguing. Some Rye fans like to talk about how Rye could compete with any teams in the section regardless of class – this is a good opportunity to show it on the field. JJEF is I think 3-4 or 3-5 so they’re not a dominant AA team, but they’ve been very competitive all year. When was the last time Rye played a AA team?
Hoops,
You are wrong about JJEF. They lost to three of the best teams in AA, Arlington, New Ro and North Rock, all in close games. JJEF is a very good team.
I hope both teams are healthy and come to play so there will be no excuses. These are the type of cross over games needed, to IGNITE the blog! I would assume it puts additional meaning in the game for the players of both teams as well.
Good luck to both teams. The outcome is going to give the Victor fans blogging ammunition.
If New Rochelle wins the sectional title…how about Rye filling in for them on Turkey Day vs Iona Prep? Would that game spark any interest on this blog?
John Jay East Fishkill
Beat: John Jay (Cross River)26-10, Mahopac 21-0,RC Ketcham 34-7, Suffern 42-6.
Lost To: Arlington 20-13,Carmel 10-7, New Rochelle 21-14, Nort Rockland 14-7.
This is the third largest school in Section 1. They were extremely competitive against all the top AA teams. I am very happy that Rye will have the chance to step up and end the season in a very meaningful game.
What happened to Lakeland? Two years ago when Harrison, riddled with injuries, had no desire to play them….the Hornets got the biggest win in school history while the Huskies got beat up on this blog as well as the scoreboard for not wanting the game and going through the motions. Now Lakeland…after attaining “powerhouse” status flips section 1 the bird? “We don’t want to play?”...BoBoo Boys ll…. Another black eye on the beaten up face of Section 1 football. If they refuse to play competitive teams in post season games they too should be forced to play in a developmental league or be playoff ineligible next year like Saunders and anyone else that pulls that crap.
Sorry…sixth largest school in section one.
HOOPS FAN:
It really depends on your definition of an AA team.
If you mean, when has Rye played a team that is currently classified as AA, then:
1996 – New London, CT HS
1991, 1990, 1987 & 1986 – Gorton
1989 & 1988 – JJCR
Otherwise the answer is never since when Rye played Mamaroneck in 1960 & 1961, and other schools before then, there were no AA, A, B, C, & D classes, only “Large Schools” (Mamaroneck) and “Small Schools” (Rye).
Easy Rye Fans,
Lest not start with the size disparity silliness..JJEF plays in the same league as a school with 1,000 more students and lost on a hail mary on the last play of the game and Carmel plays with a 1500 student disadvantage vs. Arlington as well and beat them in the regular season and was up by 11 with 3 minutes left in the playoffs…JJEF also lost to New Ro..1,000 student differential and North Rock 800 student differential…bigger than Rye itself…this will be a close game..JJEF has struggles against the pass with Arlington for instance…and is very vanilla offensively..Rye will have to pass because I dont think they will run the ball effectively…if this was a great David and Goliath story…what do you think Carmel faces every single week of the season and in crossovers..there loss to MV…MV had 1000 more students as well…Carmel was just outplayed..Garnet 10580..JJCR was a B school then..thats why they played…and Gorton was an A school..there was no AA to my knowledge at that time..but I could be wrong…this is what Ivew been saying about AA football, theres no ceiling on enrollment..so while Rye folks point out the size of POK or Ossining and that they are the smallest B school..welcome to the world of AA where JJCR with 964 kids plays an entire league schedule where everyone has from 300-1700 more students to choose from..doesnt make sense?
JJEF Against RYE is huge.
Now Guys I gotta ask you, Who says Non-Playoff games are not important?
If you had to do a pick 10, would you leave JJEF/Rye out of it?
I think John Malone Should reconsider.
Now here’s a game I’m going to see,Rye/JJEF.Very close loses to the major powers in AA.Will be an interesting and very competitive match up…..
10960,
You do not need ot worry about how you select the games. you are doing a great job. Is this the last week for picks? If not, explain how you plan to go forward into the next couple of weeks.
Garnet 10580,
Can’t believe you missed last week picks. You were a front runner to win it all.
Jim,
Iona vs. Rye will get a lot of people out of bed Thanks Giving morning. Great Idea!
let’s go rye!!!! class a south rooting for you.
Because of all the attacks by Rye, I’m not sure if I even want them to win. I’ll be a Dutchess homer in this one. Let’s go JJEF, teach the few Rye posters on here to be gracious in defeat and not always give excuses. PK is a school that flucates in between 1100 and 1200 kids. The graduation rate is 42% so those numbers are VERY jaded. Do a school population check in May and see how many people are still in PHS. PK is still a decent football and even better hoops program. You dont hear them crying when they lose to MV about enrollment. They’ve been sticking it to WP and New Ro for the last few years. Just let the kids play the games, I’m sure the RYE kids arent saying well PK is a big A school, you didnt use that excuse when you beat Roosevelt but I bet I would have heard it if you lost to them. Enough is enough, grow up. My goodness
KEVIN
Question for you. Do you think any of the coaches playing in the bowl games will play all their seniors since its the last game for them.. Those kids worked hard too, probably sat out alot, maybe got in alittle, but lets face it, the seasons over, if not now, when? During practice only goes so far..I’d be interested in what YOU think KEVIN.
Just spoke to Garnet110580. He says the Rye/JJEF game is scheduled for Friday, 5:00 pm, at Rye’s Nugent Stadium. The matchup is intriguing. No matter which team wins, the A/AA bloggers will no doubt be heard from.
rye is a very good team and could beat eastfishkill , should be a great game .
Just spoke to Garnet10580…
Jim,
I agree Iona/Rye would spark HUGE interest on this blog for a proposed Thanksgiving morning game. I don’t think it can happen this year because Rye will have played too many games. No offense to Rye, but I just don’t think its a good matchup for them. Iona’s line would negate the normal huge edge Rye has up front (ala Eastchester) and if Rye had trouble stopping Pok’s passing game, imagine Rye against Iona’s passing game. Thinking of all the overthrown/off passes by Pok’s QB in the Rye game, those passes would be 75% completed by Iona’s QB and passing game. I also think Rye would have huge problems with a healthy Jeff Mack. I don’t think the game would have huge interest from Iona and I’m not really sure Rye’s coaching staff would be interested in playing that game. It would be HUMONGOUS for this blog though!
Just a fact,
I didn’t say JJEF wasn’t good. I said they were “very competitive, but not dominant in the AA.” I think thats a fair appraisal of a 4-4 team that lost to the 4 best AA teams in close games. Either way, I think it will be a good test for Rye. I hope both of the teams are healthy and play all their best players.
Garnet10580,
Thanks for the stats, I know you’d have them! The years that Rye played Gorton, wasn’t Gorton an A team back then, same with JJCR? Regardless of what Gorton was classified as, those Gorton teams were pretty good and coached by Don DeMatteo. Wasn’t Greg Draddy one or two of those Rye teams?
What other stats do you have for Rye besides the all-time wins & losses?
Hoops, you painted JJEF with a broad stroke so it was tough to tell what you meant in regards to your thoughts about JJEF.
But let’s simplify. In my mind, JJEF is tied for third, with Arlington in AA( New Ro #1, North Rock #2). So being they are tied for 3rd best in AA, I would say they are very strong AA team. If Rye wins, does not mean Rye can beat the NR’s but it will say a lot for their program and speak to the difference between AA and A, THIS YEAR.
Again, I think Rye is the best team in class A despite losing, so it should be a lot of fun before and after the game.
Most of all I hope the kids go out and have a lot of fun and no one gets injured.
BTW, Arlington is going to romp MV.
Heard the JJ/Rye game was at 4:30. Should be a good one!
Hoops Fan
I don’t care what you think about anything… especially Rye. You don’t know anything about the Rye coaching staff or Rye period. Stick to the great history and tradition on Mamaroneck Avenue, twisting stats and data to make your idiotic arguments(like you did again last night when refering to John Jay), and of course making psycological observations to explain why people disagree with your twisted logic. If you don’t think it would be a good game it can only mean one thing…it would be a great game. If Rye, a decided underdog, were to pull it off…it wouldn’t just shut you up…you would lose your reason to live. Your whole rap and personna would be silenced and belittled forever. Everything you are about….St. Joes by the Sea, Bergen Catholic, Bob Hyland and Father Tobin would lose their meaning…would your brow be dripping sweat on a chilly November morning if Rye scored first and kept the lead into the fourth and Iona couldn’t stop them on a long drive in the fourth quarter to open up a 10 point margin late? If Iona were to squeak out a 6 point win would you be thinking about excuses on the car ride home to type on this blog when everyone else was eating turkey? In order for you to have any credibility…Iona would have to beat Rye the way everyone else has been beating Iona…and that’s not going to happen.
An Iona Prep/Rye game on Thanksgiving would be a bloggers delight. According to the Section 1 Tournament Booklet – 2009, the “Maximum # of Contests: 9 – Inclusive of Sectional Championships.” Rye will only have “played” eight games because of the Saunders forfeit so potentially an additional game might possibly be scheduled depending how the Section 1 officials interpret “contests.” Nonetheless, I would not think it would be practical to schedule any Iona/Rye game.
Rye vs JJEF can’t wait. One suggestion for Dino-
If your up 20-19 with a 4th and 6th on JJ 46 yard line with 27 seconds left PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PUNT the ball!!!
s10580,
Great point about the forfeit! Maybe it could theoretically happen after all. One possible impediment is Iona’s football coach is also their basketball coach. Playing a meaningless game with a non-rival on Thanksgiving could prolong the football season three weeks (if they lose this weekend) and cut into the basketball preseason (Mack is also a big basketball contributor), but you never know. It would certainly set all kinds of blog records!
Jim,
Do you read your own posts towards me? You sound momentarily deranged. In your other posts talking about Rye football you sound like a knowledgable (about all things Rye football, at least), gentlemenly, nostalgic, old sage-type. Why the dichotomy? What about Stepinac football 45 years ago has given you this massive chip on your shoulder? Read your own posts and you can see what I’m talking about. How someone can hate a football program they have nothing to do with is beyond me.
Either way, let me clarify, I never said I’d pick JJEF to beat Rye. I hate to tell you this, but I think Rye will win in a close one – maybe 23-14, 23-20. My pick could ruin your week!
And one other thing, can you name one stat or data that I ever twisted in any of our discussions? I presented lots of data and stats to you about Stepinac football and you seemed to proverbial “storm off in a huff” everytime I did but you never actually refuted anything I said. You didn’t like what I presented, but you never said anything I said wasn’t factual or true. You just had a vague, removed 40-45 year old opinion if things that you weren’t changing no matter what the actual facts presented to you were.
For example, you said you didn’t remember Stepinac ever beating New Rochelle in the 60’s. I named three years they did and another that they may have tied (and at least once they didn’t play). 3-4-1, 3-5-1 – Not a bad record against probably the best program of that decade in Westchester – New Ro. Your response was to say some of New Ro’s teams were awful and also (in that decade) lost to Scarsdale and Portchester. You know well enough that Portchester and Scarsdale each had outstanding teams in the late 60’s and each finished #1 in the county – PC in ‘67 I believe and Scarsdale in ‘69 I think (I could be off a year either way on the years). So your whole response was non-sense. Yes, losing to Scarsdale or Portchester today would be an embarrassment for New Ro (no offense to those schools fans), but losing to them in the late 60’s, would be akin to New Ro losing to North Rockland today or vice versa. Please get a grip. And good luck to Rye this week in a big game.
Just a Fact,
I like Rye (and most Rye bloggers), but calling JJEF the 3rd best team in AA is a stretch. They finished 3rd in the AA North. New Ro and North Rockland beat them, so the best you can rate JJEF is 5th in AA, thats not counting White Plains. White Plains/JJEF would probably be a good game. I’d pick White Plains, but I’m not sure its conclusive either way. So I think its fair to say JJEF is 5th or 6th in AA, not 3rd. JJEF played everyone tight in the AA, so I’ll agree they are a “very good” AA team, but let’s not overhype a 4-4 team. Either way, if Rye beats them it will be a HUGE win for Rye.
I think Rye has an advantage because they’re coming off a bitter loss and can make a huge statement with a win. JJEF is expected to win so they have less to play for. I’m not sure of any injuries for either team that could alter the outcome – that could be factor.
Just a Fan,
Very funny
Hoops Fan:
Come to think of it both Gorton and JJCR were probably very large “B” schools for those years, otherwise those games would not have been scheduled.
I have all Rye game scores back to 1919 – no individual records however.
HF/s10580:
No dice on the ‘09 Saunders game not counting as a “contest’ eventhough it was not played on the field. Sorry Section One would never allow such creative thinking/ flexibility on that point – I’m sure of that!
garnet10580,
You might be right about Gorton and JJCR being large B schools, but I don’t remember Gorton ever in Class B – I could be wrong though. Either way, Gorton has good teams back then under Don DeMatteo who died too young of cancer about 10 years ago. He was right up there with his brother in teams of coaching skills. It would be interesting to see a list of the Section 1 champions in the years before the state playoffs began – obviously I know they weren’t as conclusive using the bowl system.
And you’re absolutely right about Section 1/Saunders/forfeit
Hoops,
JJEF loss to Carmel is the only head scratching game. Otherwsie this team beat themsleves against Arlington, played close against New Ro, and almost beat a very good North Rock team. But you certainly are entitled to your opinion.
I will say this, you are one of the first defenders of tough schedule argument when it comes to Iona, and in AA , JJEF losses rank right up there in COMPARISON to Iona in the Catholic league.
Do not sleep on JJEF, they are very good. Again, I say tied for 3rd in AA after watching WP, North Rock, Arlingotn, and JJEF play.
I wonder what other AA fans think. I know Football Gods got New Ro 1, WP, 2 and MV 3,
Anyone else?
Here are some definitons:
AA Rankings:
1. New Ro – Great team this year
2. North Rock – Very good team with a chance to be great this year
3. JJEF/Arlington – Very good teams this year
5. White Plains – good team with a very nice season this year.
Honorable mention would be tough since Carmel and Suffern have faded due to injuries. MV and RCK have made strong comebacks after having been left for dead. I would leave all four in. Well deserved!
Just a fact,
I absolutely agree with the tough schedule argument, I just don’t think I’d rank a team that lost a head-to-head matchup ahead of the winner, just like I wouldn’t rank Iona ahead of a team they lost to. I have a lot of respect for JJEF. I think they are obviously a very good team playing all these teams close. I think they are legitimately the #3 team in the AA North having lost to #1 and #2 (Arlington and Carmel) and they also lost to North Rockland and New Ro – so that puts them at best #5 in the AA. White Plains only has 3 losses to New Ro (twice) and North Rockland in a very close one, so I’d give the edge to WP over JJEF, putting JJEF at #6 in the AA in my opinion. #6 in the AA is not bad at all. They might have been the favorites had they played in the A league.
Just a fact,
Ketcham 9)Mahopac 10) ?
Good rankings. In AA mine would be 1)New Ro 2)North Rock 3) White Plains 4) Arlington 5)Carmel 6) JJEF 7)MV
It would be really interesting to see an overall Top 10 going into the championship round for Section 1. Here’s my attempt:
1-New Ro
2-Stepinac
3-North Rockland – on the strength of being undefeated I keep them ahead of Iona.
4-Iona Prep – 35-0 stutout of Farrell in first healthy game since Week 2 helps tremendously. I don’t see Stepinac, North Rock or New Ro beating Farrell 35-0.
5-Poughkeepsie
6-Roosevelt
7-Rye
8-White Plains
9-Arlington
10-Somers
HM: Ossining, Nyack, Bronxville, JJEF, Carmel
Iona Prep-Rye would never happen-Also I don’t really think both teams see it as any big rival game- Maybe a non league opening game would be the better alternative.
Iona is concentrating on the CHSFL AAA playoffs and getting by 3 teams (St. Joes, Holy Trinity and St. Anthony) that are ranked currently in the Tri State are top 10.
Why isn’t Kenndy Catholic in a Bowl Game- Don’t they always play Albertus in a Catholic School Presidents Cup?- They had some GREAT season this year.
Come on now Hoops….
You cant put Carmel ahead of RCK and JJEF, they got physically pounded by RCK week 1 and lost and won a smoke and mirrors game vs JJEF in which JJEF turned it over 4 times..twice inside the 17 yd line?Also lost to a 4-4 Mahopac team whos only other wins are CN, Scarsdale and JJCR. Carmel is an 8 ahead of Suffern 9..In order…New Ro, North Rock,Arlington, WP, JJEF, RCK,MV, Suffern, Carmel..just realized you only ranked 9 teams…Mahopac 10..Im sure that will get some feedbackAnd I dont want to hear about kids not coming to play in meaningless games….to the kids there shouldnt be meaningless games..the adults..coaches..set the tone…so now MV plays great but who cares…how about the kids practicing and the coaches coaching Why is it OK for Mahopac and Carmel to roll over in a “meaningless game” and get cranked by MV and RCK..doesnt it tell you something about the culture there?Uh oh…now Im sure I’ll really hear it..its true though….?And another joke as I was at dinner last night Im told..no AA team would cross with JJEF…meaning of like records in AA…thats why they sought out Lourdes and then Rye..a 4-4 team..give me a break??Ramapo folds…CS wont play Mahopac..what a joke?Didnt Coach Scarpelli devise this ill fated joke we call AA post season play this year?On a positive note, Arlington boys #1 in the sate in soccer as well as JJEF girls…GO POK Pioneer football..and watch JJEF beat Rye and RCK and Arlington whip JJCR and MV respectively!!!!
Dutchess,
You know your DC football better than I. I didn’t follow who Carmel lost to that closely. I thought their record was around 4-4, 3-5. Generally, if teams have close to equal records and one beat the other head-to-head I’d rank that one higher. At the very least, it would be easily understandable. If you say Carmel had some bad losses late – I’ll take your word for it. However, if Carmel lost without Schilling at QB that is a big difference between when he was a QB – HUGE actually. Also, the first game of the regular season was so long ago, I value more recent games higher these days.
Hoops,
Dont think hes(Schilling) missed a game which is contrary to what Ive said..but admittedly hes been hurt by the injury(shoulder) from anyone Ive spoken with..the kids a warrior though..hes a star point guard and All Section caliber baseball player for his father, baseball coach..he just locks it up each week and competes..Ive seen him play 3 times against “my” teams and have to say hes my favorite player in terms of how he competes??On the meaningless game nonsense..what are your thoughts??
Hoops,
Dont know where youd get that list..but it was always left to conjecture,,in 84 when Roos/NorthRock played..you had Mahopac play Ossining..WP also in a bowl game I think vs. Gorton as I remember..it was always a mythical champ as decided by the sportswriters of the precursor to the Gannett chain? I may be wrong..anyone remember? There usually were a few 9-1 teams and writers cast their votes..weird in retrospect…very few years with undefeateds..I can remember 87’ between Roosevelt/North Rockland and 88’ between Mahopac and North Rockland…both won by the Raiders…surprise!!Derrick Owens and Cam Williams..I know Sullas good but for the Raider faithful..do you remeber what that looked like??Both Roosevelt and Mahopac came in with a fighters chance or favored and left on the wrog end of the score..I think both games were blowouts
Hoops,
You’re awful quiet…Carmel gave up more points than they scored by a bunch….you and I dont need to follow HS football that close to know thats not a good ratio?Its not 1998 for the Rams or even the magical mystery tour of last year…....facts dont lie?
Dutchess,
I’m happy to concede you’re right on the Carmel/JJEF issue. You know more than I do on the upstate teams. My only point is that if two teams have similar records, and have played head to head – its reasonable to rank the winner higher – not necessarily always right, but reasonable.
Regarding the rankings before the state playoffs. You’re right, in the 80’s and early 90’s it was particularly tough picking a #1 with the addition of the Rockland county teams and the northern teams getter bigger and better. Prior to the 80’s, The top section 1 teams were almost always New Ro, WP and Roosevelt – in no particular order. Gorton was always very good. Portchester and Scarsdale each had several very good teams (including #1’s). It was easier to rank those teams because those 6 almost always played eachother head to head. with Rockland and the northern schools, not all the top teams always played head to head. Stepinac and Iona weren’t always included in the newspaper rankings to my memory, but they would’ve always been top 5-6 if they were ranked.
Pleasantville vs Alberus 4pm Friday @Pville
I do remember those North Rockland teams well – they were awesome. Among the best I’d ever seen in Section 1 before Ray Rice’s teams. I’d put those North Rockland teams right up there with a few White Plains and New Ro teams from the 60’s and 70’s. Roosevelt had some excellent teams, the two best probably being with Granderson at QB and the Kennedy/Atkins team in the late 90’s – though I don’t think any of the Roosevelt teams were as good as those North Rockland teams. Stepinac and Iona had some excellent teams though its hard to judge them against the all-time best since their league was so tough going undefeated was unheard. I can remember a couple Stepinac teams in the 70’s and early 80’s with two losses – both to teams (St Francis Prep, Chaminade, etc) ranked in the state Top 5-10. SFP in those years was probably the best program in the state and sent a ton of players to the NFL and major colleges. I’m sure Iona had a few of those type of teams too. Iona’s Howie Burke led team was awesome, though they played in a different era from the Ray Rice and Derrick Owens teams.
I think the rye JJEF crossover game is the kind of crossover game needed for section 1 to move foward and for us to have a good measure of exactly how good teams are. Imagine if this game took place in week 3. I like jjef by 11.
My top 10 all inclusive
1-Stepinac – I think they would beat New Ro head to head.
2-New Ro – If there offense was better they’d be 1
3-Iona Prep – There healthy, hopefully they beat St. Joes like i think and validate me.
4-North Rockland – Solid team, predictable on offense
5-WP – they would have loved another crack at no roc
6-Arlington – They put up
7-JJEF – had a chance in every game
8-Rye – Still the best team in A
9-Roosevelt – Offense is just too talented
10-PK – they beat Rye
Does anyone give North Rockland a shot against New Rochelle?
Iona Power,
North Rock definitely has a shot. The problem as I have previously mentioned, North Rock has a couple of issues. One, they cannot leave their LB’s 2.5 to 3 yards from the line of scrimmage. Arlington ran two trap plays for 30 and 50 yards. By their alignment, the LB’s practically have taken themselves out of the play. Wing T teams love trap/counter, so you can bet New Ro will take full advantage.
Offensively, the O-Coordinator needs to call better sequence of plays. His play calling against JJEF was very stale throughout most of the game. Against Arlington, it took the O-Coordinator to about half time before he got his act together. To really see what I am talking about you would have had to watch one of those games.
One last thing, two weeks in a row I have seen North Rock QB put the ball up for grabs instead of getting rid of the ball while already out of the pocket. If the QB can have a mature presence in the pocket and not force the issue, North Rock’s D is good enough to keep this team in the game. Not to mention the o-line has gotten better each week, and Sulla (getting healthier each week) and Williams are both doing well in the backfield and on the defensive side of the ball.
If North Rock limits the turn overs and their defense does not give up the big play, this is going to be a classic!
Still rooting for New Ro!
Just a fact
Thanks for the analysis. I remember last year a lot of people were talking about North Rockland running the spread. I guess their coach feels more comfortable with their traditional Power I.
Speed kills and that is why New Rochelle should have an advantage.
Here is my top 10:
1. New Ro – have not lost in section 1 since 1st game last year. Though criticized for weak schedule, they beat all who come.
2. North Rock – great size on the o-line, very good rb’s, and very good, bordering great defense.
3. Stepinac – have not seen them play, but they do keep winning. Supposedly have some D-1 players on the team. Have not seen them and ”?” if you are going to comment, use your REAL blog name if you have any ba$$$( you won’t guaranteed)!
4. Arlington – would beat WP easily, proof will be in their destruction of MV this week.
5. JJEF – only this far down due to record and lost head to head vs. Arlington. If they played Arlington now, game could be different. To date, they have had toughest schedule out of any AA teams. And for the haters, if Iona gets credit for quality of opponent, so does JJEF!
6. Iona – have not seen them play and quite possibly could beat some of the teams above when healthy. This week should tell us a lot. The losses have made it tough to rank this team.
7. Rye – the better team did not win last Friday night. Wish they could play that game again. Another loss, then POK would take this spot. This week’s game vs. JJEF will be one of the best things to happen to section 1 in a long time, only because I am hopeful this could be ground breaking for games such as this to occur in years to come.
8. White Plains – they had a good year, but great compared to recent past.
9. POK/Roosevelt – whoever wins this game will own this spot. Should be a great game.
Iona Power,
a lot of people are down on North Rock style of Offense. They run “I” and sometimes” power I” formations. Their biggest problem is the sequence of play calling. My case in point was when I was watching Rye vs. Nyack. Rye had enormous size compared to Nyack. Though Rye was lining up in some power formations, like double tight, the o-coordinator had some very nice mix of runs and passes. Of course when plays are getting executed, all plays are good.
And to be fair to North Rock’s O-coordinator, he called a great second half in the Arlington game. I know he has been with the team for quite some time and has had success. My advice to the O-coordinator, is at year end get every Rye tape you can find and start writing down plays and reviewing how they group the plays.
I will always believe if you have the right o-line, which North Rock always seems to have, the “I” and “power I” formations will always work, even without the stud RB. This year RB’s are good, but not what North Rock would consider great. And this year like any, by the 4th quarter rolls around, their o-line has beaten and wore down the opponents d-line.
What are your thoughts of the “I” and are there similar teams in the Catholic league who have success running a similar style offense.
guys…the rye/ jjef game means squat…nothing,,,nada…so why all the hype??? the season’s over, kids are moving on to their next sport,not championship finals, why risk injury etc..and worse yet…what if RYE LOSES>>>???? ohhh that would be awful…yes, awful….
oh it would only be awful if they go for it on 4th down and don’t punt…yes, that would be Dino proving he was right the first time..I think this will be a showcase of next year’s talent, which is plentiful, ...the coaches would be wise not to risk unude injury…but then again maybe their egos won’t allow clear thinking…remember they know best..see how far it got them this season? yeah to Nugent Staduim not Mahopac…
Just some info-how ironic is it that Arlington, coached by Dominic DeMatteo is playing in the Gerry Keevins Bowl and RCK, coached by Pat Keevins is playing in the Donny DeMatteo Bowl?
Former Eagle,
you might be right, but I HOPE your wrong. I guess the score tomorrow night will tell us all we need to know. If a blow out, one of the teams chose not to show up. This should a close game. Maybe one team pulls away at the end, the most. If both teams decided to show, the widest margin of victory would be 2 td’s (one coming late).
My hopes, both teams show up, and my prediction 21-17 JJEF. Though Rye is big, they have not played a team with this type of size. JJEF has talent in the backfield as well.
Should be interesting.
Just A Fact,
Urcoli is one of the most underrated players in the section at tailback for JJEF..he already has well over 1,000 yds rushing..and hes only a junior..I know you believe in the Patriots..my only concern is their pass defense..its been an achilles heel at times..I know youre sick of hearing it but I think this is the greatest week in the history of Southern Dutchess football..that may sound like a stretch…but…JJEF vs Rye…the “redemption bowl”, Arlington vs MV in the Jerry Keevins Bowl, RCK vs JJCR in the Don Dematteo Bowl and the grandaddy of them all…the POK Pioneers in the Section Championship( 2 teams in bowl games and 1 team in the championship out of 5 if you include Lourdes, not bad…POK by 14 at least…no kidding..Roos will not be able to block, Frank, Simpkins and Co….Tyree at DE and Neshewiat at 300+ pounds at NG…not a chance?Jarrid williams, Josh”Rye Killer” Graham..should I go on??Remember when football up here was a total joke??I never thought Id see this day..as recent as a few years ago…I see all Southern Dutchess teams in a sweep…not very unbiased though?? Where the heck are the picks from 10960…did I miss them again…Im in the hunt..good luck to all the teams today and this weekend!!
Just A Fact,
I missed your point earlier about JJEF schedule..youre right..it was brutal..the game that doesnt make any sense to me is Carmel..as I said 4 turnovers killed them…but they are 2tds better than Carmel in my mind…Carmel lost to Mahopac and RCK and JJEF beat the hell out of both of them..21-0 and 34-7 I think…Im sure you didnt make any friends with the Iona crowd..I thought they had cornered the market on a tough schedules???LOL.. Not kidding, I like North Rockland on an O’riordan field goal late in a low scoring game? Thoughts?Id say 17-14!!