The run is over
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- October
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The most incredible eight seconds of football I’ve ever witnessed will followed by months of second-guessing, finger-pointing and head-shaking.
How did Josh Graham get so wide open? Did Graham go offsides on the final play? Why didn’t Rye punt on the previous drive? Why did Poughkeepsie go for the 2-point conversion? Were all those penalties against Rye legit?
There are dozens of questions from this game from the fourth quarter alone. In case you don’t know what happened, here’s what transpired:
Rye led 17-0 at the half and was 20-7 to start the fourth quarter before the Pioneers scored on three straight possessions, ending with Josh Graham’s miraculous 49-yard touchdown catch from Jarrid Williams as time expired. Williams had 202 yards in the game, most of which came in the second half, and three touchdowns.
Troy Wright’s 1-yard score with 3:30 left capped an 89-yard drive and pulled Poughkeepsie to within 20-13. The touchdown was set up by a totally legitimate pass-interference call in the end zone. The span on the extra point was low and the holder ran out but was tackled. Rye then went 3-and-out, running just 32 seconds off the clock was Poughkeepsie used two timeouts and an incomplete pass.
The Pioneers then went 66 yards in 58 seconds. Amazingly, Williams was 1 for 7 passing on the drive but was helped by a 30-yard completion on 4th-and-10 to Graham with 2:40 left and then a questionable pass-intereference foul on 4th-and-10 at the Rye 37. Graham broke a 23-yard score on the next play, making it 20-19 with 2:00 left. Poughkeepsie opted to run a “muddle huddle” where six guys are at the left hash, four are in the middle and one is split right. Williams took the snap and tried to throw a pass but was hit by Brendan Nagle as he released and it fell incomplete.
Poughkeepsie coach Ken Barger on the decision:
“We’ve been doing that. We figured that we’re on the road, we had to go for the win. We didn’t want to go to overtime. I stand by the call. I guess I went from zero to hero in the span of eight seconds.”
Once Rye recovered the onside kick, the game should have been over. Oh, it wasn’t.
With no Poughkeepsie timeouts left, Rye ran three plays up the middle and ran the clock down to 27 seconds. Facing fourth-and-6 at the Pioneers 46, Rye elected not to punt to Poughkeepsie’s dangerous return men and instead ran a play where Connor Eck was to roll right and eat up as much time as he could. He only got six seconds off before Reuben Frank (headed to UConn) slammed him down for a 5-yard loss.
Rye coach Dino Garr on the decision:
“We felt we could run some time off the clock and hopefully get a first down. A lot could go wrong on a punt. It could have gotten blocked or a bad snap or whatever. Do I second guess myself? No.”
Williams threw three straight incomplete passes — all overthrown with a Poughkeepsie receiver behind a leaping Rye defensive back — before the final play. With 8 seconds left at the Rye 49, Williams hit Graham on the left sideline about 20 yards downfield. Graham slipped through two defenders and burst into the end zone as the clock went down to 0:00.
Mayhem on one sideline. Total devastation on the other.
It’s hard to really describe the scene. As I looked out from the Rye sideline, I never would have known anybody was standing behind me. It was the quiested a thousand people could possibly be.
What will forever stick out in my mind was looking at the Poughkeepsie players’ faces after they shook hands. Three out of every five players was sobbing crying. The other two were choking back tears.
Barger’s take on the final play:
“We were trying to isolate Josh all game. The quarterback made a great throw and I was screaming ‘Get out of bounds. Get out of bounds. I guess it’s plays like that that make you look good as a coach. It was a special game.”
Garr didn’t have much nice things to say about the officiating. Rye, a team that rarely commits penalties, was flagged six times for 59 yards.
“I can’t be happy with the officiating,” Garr said he was smacked his hand down the table in his office after the game. He then turned to me: “Did you watch the game? Did you?”
Garr added: “Throughout this whole stretch, I always thought these last (seven) years that if we were going to lose, we’d lose it on the field. I don’t think we did.”
Graham was penalized for leaving the line too soon three times. But, I can tell you with my own eyes that he didn’t a whole lot more and got away with it.
Did he do it on the last play? It’s not impossible. I have to see the tape.
Overall, this was as memorable a football game as I’ve ever seen. It will be aired on MSG this weekend. I’ll post the date and time when I get it.
It’s a must watch.
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That Coach Garr blames the officials. Bottom line is this, up 1 with that amount of time left you PUNT THE BALL, don’t you trust your special teams, punt the ball out of bounds if your afraid of a return. On 4th and 6 ??, make them go 80yds with no time-outs not 50 and only needing maybe 30yds for a field goal attempt. No coach it wasn’t the refs fault, the outcome of the game was in YOUR hands and you blew it,stop blaming the refs, great message to send your kids. Good Luck Poughkeepsie.
The end of an era.
WOW! JOSH GRAHAM IS LEGIT! GREAT GAME AND CONGRATS TO PK.GOOD LUCK NEXT WEEK AT THE PAC. BTW THE KID WAS MOVING B4 THE SNAP
GRAHAM IS THE MAN!!!!!!!!
Dino, you out thought yourself. Incredible decision to give Poughkeepsie the ball back at midfield…...it was as if they recovered the onsides kick.
Ryes finished,Dinos finished.
Congrats to Poughkeepsie. Celebrate with a rye on the rocks. This ones for you.
In case anyone is wondering, Rye returns a large majority of this team for next year. Nothing is over at Rye. I expect that we will contend for a Section One championship next year and blow the doors off of teams so questionavble officiating won’t dictate our season.
How many second half drives were killed by holding penalties? Certainly the pass interference and motion penalties speak for themselves.
Horrible display of officiating by a mixed crew that could not have been worse.
Rye will remember this bitter ending and re-write the script for next year.
wow. he was moving before the snap, but wow. end of something very special or the beginning of better things to come?
congrats to poughkeepsie… thet said the could win and they did?
RYe stop making excuses, regardless of if it was a false start or not, he shouldnt have been able to make the catch. For those saying rye is done, you are a bunch of dumbasses. Rye has been the best program in section 1 for years and still is. They have great returnign players. And this is coming from a person who does not like rye. Great game.. way to go for poughkeepsie to pull this game out. Good luck vs Roosevelt/Lakeland
The Section run may be over but the history is recorded. Since 2002 Rye’s record is 77 wins and 5 losses. Five State final appearances at the dome and three State championships. Lets not forget the continuing streak of seven consecutive wins over rival Harrison.
Many Rye fans, including me will question Coach Garr’s decision not to punt with 37 seconds to play. Nonetheless, Dino has proven to be an outstanding coach over the many years at Rye (and Westlake) as has unsung Coach Maloney. Rye is most fortunate to have this duo calling the plays.
Many thanks to the Garnets football team, coaches, cherrleaders, pep band trainers and other RHS support staff for providing a most enjoyable football season. Also, despite all I hear about how great Harrison will be in 2010, Rye has a lot of talent returning and could very well extend the streak to eight games.
Lastly, notwithstanding all the talk you have already heard or will hear about the referees’ bad calls or no calls, Dino’s non-punt decision, etc., congratulations to PoK for its amazing comeback. The Pioneers never gave up and are deserving of the Friday night’s victory over Rye. Games like this one is what makes high school football great. One team had to lose and unfortunately it was the one I root for.
What is Rye’s safety doing on that last play? that is the worst play i have ever seen in football history. Everyone go back and watch it, wat kind of angle is that, there is no time on the clock all the kid had to do was push him out of bounds. it looks like he tried to lunge at him what was that. Everyone who saw this post me your thoughts, im shell shocked.
DObbs Ferry still the greatest dynasty of the era
Its so obvious that I’m not even going to say it…b/c you Rye supporters will support one, and bash the other…but its good to see the landscape has changed…whether it’s because certains moved up in class, or other teams stepped up, its good for the Section.
Remember Edgemont’s dynasty with bernstein? had they been in C for a few more years they may have done what Dobbs did, or even Rye did. The would have had more than 3 titles…but when they moved up they made the sectional playoffs but came up short. Ever since its been up and down with that program.
Dobbs started in the joke of class D and slowly made its way into C. Just as people were labeling C the new D, the run ended. Now people say there’s great competition in Class C? There always was, just now Croton and BVille and others have stepped up and actually beaten Dobbs Ferry to demonstrate.
Rye had a great Class B run; It had a Fantastic Class A run. You people expect this to be the 70s steelers, the 80s 49ers, the 90s cowboys, the 00s patriots. Win every year, no matter what, its high school after all. There will be hiccups and bumps in the road, its how you rebound that defines you as a coach, a player, a fan, etc.
However, the greatest advice I give to my kids almost on a daily basis is the expression “Be Humble in Victory, Be Quiet in Defeat.” Pok did that in its victory, it was professional and did the right thing/said the right thing. Yet someoneeeeeee, im not mentioning his name, was not quiet in defeat. He blames the officials?? How bout this-Every kid on that roster on Rye should be ticked off at Garr b/c of the decision to NOT PUNT the ball on 4th down, instead doing a bonehead play. If i was on that team I’d be so annoyed my coach made a decision like that. Same with Pok-the two point conversion that could have tied the game was a bit over done. Just go for the tie and work your way out.
When you win, be humble and modest. When you lose, shut the hell up and make a personal vow to be better next time. Too much finger pointing and now enough maning up in this situation.
Should be a great story and feel good night, where two great teams went at it and somebody had to go home the loser-thats the name of the game. But instead controversy?? FIVE BUCKS if it was the other way around it be all “Wtf there was great refs tonite! whoooo!!”
Congrads Poughkeepsie you are a great team.. let out the emotions !!
p.s
eastchester beat both of them
what if bronner didn’t get hurt..?
the world will never know
Congrads
Graham was penalized for leaving the line too soon three times. But, I can tell you with my own eyes that he didn’t a whole lot more and got away with it.
Devaney your making me sick right now with that statement. I highly doubt you were paying attention to Graham taking off too early. You stir things up then try to play a good guy role when the blog explodes correct? Is that how you operate?
Class A fan,
shut your mouth don’t you dare say dumbasses, who are you to say that to a team that has been so good ovr so many years. dont you dare, get off this blog
You Rye fans are hilarious. accept the fact that Rye lost.
Stop bringing up Rye and their class B history…. this is class A fellaz…... Wake up!!!
Great job to pk. coach is probably saying, “we suck, they barely beat us so they suck, they beat rye by more so rye must suck worse”...but seriously, i dont think he made the wrong call not punting. punts do get blocked a lot in hs football. Kicks get returned, and sometimes u aim for out of bounds but it doesnt quite makke it. hs punters r usually kids that play other positions, not actual punters. 50 yards is still a journey 4 20 seconds. pk tried 4 hail mary’s essentially, 1 worked. i dont think any1 would think the rye defense would give up 49 yards in a situation where giving up 49 yards is the only bad play, 48 woulda been acceptable.
Hey “The Nyack”
It wasnt that Kev was watching it on that one play because it was so obvious that the a bunch of PK players were doing that all night, but the refs werent calling it every time.
I think the Refs werent calling it because in reality, Rye was actually killing them really bad in the first half. They cant call it on almost every play.
I know Dino was freaking out that the refs werent calling that all night.
I can also say that after watching the QB for PK throw three strait incomplete passes at the end, I didnt think there was any way he would complete one for a win. I figured Rye would drop like 7 or 8 guys back all over the field to prevent it, but they never did.
It was obvious that Grahm started early on the last play, and after he scored, my first thought was, oh my god, I cant believe that the play is going to come back on illegal motion.
But..it never did. There was no flag. Maybe the refs werent paying attention, and were only looking down field. who knows, but I bet they show it on MSG on Sunday.
Either way, Rye should have never been in that position anyway.
The refs made some questionble interference calls on 4th and long, but that high school football.
And…Three plays in a row before the last TD pass, the QB for PK had underthrown a pass to his open recievers, and each of the times, if he had just led the reciever, the recievers looked like he was going right past the defender and could have scored. Bad defense by Rye.
I dont know what Type of defense Rye was playing, but I dont know why they didnt have more guys dropped back deep.
Grahm did a great job breaking tackles after the throw, but there was no one left for the last 30 yards to touch him, and thats a shame.
BTW…Dino is a great coach, but he really screwed up by not punting.
To put PK in a position to score from midfield with only 27 seconds left, and no timeouts is crazy.
Rye was 7 time section champs, and defending state champs.
66-1 in local play, and 77-5 overall since 2002 like the press box liked to spout during the game.
If a team like that cant get off a punt with a rush in a close game, who can?
The refs sucked, but this one is on Dino.
BTW..PK play an amazingly inspired 4th QTR! Congrats to them!
Its nice to see Class A with a brand new differnt champion for the first time in many years.
No Nyack, Harrison, Ossining, Somers, Brewster, Greeley,
What other team in the last 20 years has won class A besides these teams. Maybe spring Valley once.
PK has been in the championship about 5 times over 20 years, and never got it. Maybe this year will be their year.
HSFB Guy,
One game does not mean the landscape has changed. You can keep selling that idea but no football person is buying and makes you sound like a rabid POK fan. When POK does it for several years then maybe you will have a point.
It was a great game they won, but please, it is not like they dominated the game from opening kickoff. The fact they won was a “miracle” to most that saw the game.
I did not even watch the second half, but from what I READ from everyone including the guy that hosts the website above, POK pulled one from the “air” tonight.
Still Congrats to POK, but please let’s keep everything in perspective.
wow, im not sure the better team won, it sounds like bad coaching in the last few seconds cost rye the game.
THE BETTER TEAM DID NOT WIN, BUT THEN THATS SPORTS…..ITS GOOD TO SEE ANOTHER NAME IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP CIRCLE CONGRATULATIONS…NEXT WEEK SHOULD BE VERY INTERESTING
INCREDIBLE, I turned the computer off beginning of 4th. PK has lost some games like this in sectional play. One year at Nyack they went up and down the field and proceeded to miss extra points on TDs and they also missed a few chippy fgs. 10960 would know better but Im sure the game ended a 1 pt loss by PK. It was the year Wilson and Baltimore were playing. This win by PK will do so much for their program and community.
Rye has a great team and its gotta be awful for them to lose like this. From what I saw Rye was dominating every phase. I guess those long drives that ended in fgs shoulda been tds
Dont want to say I told you so…but..I did..Jeff P called it as well..but we’re Dutchess fans..how can you not punt..even if they just pooch it out of bounds and make them go 65-70 yards..in any case its inexcusable to not have been in some type of prevent type defense..with no timeouts it was highly unlikely POK would run on any down, let alone 4th and 49..It sounds like Coach Garrs ego got the best of him on the punt call…and even if the officiating stunk which it may have..be gracious in defeat..we hear what a great teacher and leader of young men he his and I dont dispute that, never saw the man coach..just a suggestion, sometimes we are measured best in how we handle adversity and defeat than in good times and victory..didnt we just go through this ad nauseum with the Somers postgame comments?
It is incredible, all of this Rye is finished, it is over for Garr. Rye has time in and time out had great teams, and with an undefeated JV coming up the line, I cannot see where all this nastiness and pessimissm comes from. Looks like everyone thinks Rye is down and out, and it is ALL OVER for Rye. If you keep thinking that you are delusional, the loss came to down to one point. We are proud of our Garnets, and we don’t tear them down around here.
Im not sure Ive seen much Rye is finished or the same for Garr..in fact just one post titled its over..I dont think Rye will ever be down and out but they also wont ever have a run like that again in A..its just too tough to do against that competition over the course of a season and playoffs..Rye lost to a non playoff team and a team with 2 losses in the end..something non of us would think could ever happen in years past..look at Somers last year and this year, convinced they had the tools to go to the states and lost in the first round to lower thought of teams in Nyack and Poughkeepsie..the problem is as you saw last night..theyre Nyack and Poughkeepsie and you cant ever underestimate them..come playoff time..there are no givens in A & AA, just ask Fox Lane!
I love Dino’s quote:
Garr added: “Throughout this whole stretch, I always thought these last (seven) years that if we were going to lose, we’d lose it on the field. I don’t think we did.”
Welcome to the world of Sleepy Hollow my man!
Without Rye in the section finals and the state tournament this blog will suffer. Who is going to talk about how great their program is? Can you imagine AA champ North Rockland, A champ Poughkeepsie, B champ Nanuet. The three bigs not from Westchester, how times have changed!
I was at the game last night and was shocked at the way it ended.
POK has a lot of speed and talent so it should not surprise anyone that they could score quick.
I believe Dino Garr made the right call at the end of the game. You want to put the ball in the hands of either Eck or McCormack. Those are the two money players.
Also the Rye defense is very well coached and with less than 10 seconds left and POK at midfield I too would take my chances.
While I believe the remaining teams left in Class A are high quality I think this loss will hurt the chances of a section 1 Class A team reaching the dome because most of these kids knew what it takes to advance through the update playoffs as well as the coaches.
Good luck to the remaining section 1 teams
Iona Power,
As even Coach Barger admitted regarding his decision to go for 2 earlier..its only the right decision when it works..he said something to the effect of going from zero to hero real fast with that last play?The same can be said for Coach Garr in reverse?
I hear the bad offciating stems back to an old family fued that occured last summer when the heads of the five famalies got together at Don Scarpulas upstate house. Don DeMatteo and a few of the rockland famlies were upset with Don Dino. They felt he was not sharing his pull he had with the referees. Don Ricci of Ossining was overheard saying “Bene, Don Dino. I need a man who has powerful friends. I need, Don Dino, all of those referees that you carry around in your pocket, like so many nickels and dimes”. Don Dino was not willing to share. So in a secret meeting at Don Riccs home the plan was set. The five famlies cut a deal with the officals to whack Don Dino out of the playoffs. Don Dino listen carefully Listen, whoever comes to you at the section champioship game requesting a meeting, he’s the traitor. Don’t forget that.
Kevin,
You are way too close to the Rye program. Your comments come off as very biased. If you want to continue to be the “media voice” of Section 1 football that everyone looks to then you need to be “less invested” in said program to remain credible … just an opinion from someone who enjoys your work.
BC
ScottinRye,
What is a “mixed crew” of officials?
POUGHKEEPSIE, SPEED SPEED SPEED, GOOD LUCK , DUTCHESS COUNTY FOOTBALL
Under The Stands,
You disrespect Don Casarella by not mentioning him by name..there is only one Rockland family, which as you know, controls football in the entire Section 1 area?? Now perhaps a deal has been cut regarding officiating in advance of todays semifinal North Rockland/Arlington matchup between the two godfathers that matter(Dematteo Sr. and Casarella) if you will..but if I were betting Id say the fix is in..you see, Casarella is from a part of Italy known as Harrison and they cant be trusted!!LOL..Under The Stands sleeps with the fishes!
What a disgrace by Garr blaming the officials. Comes off as very small.
The officials were not the blame for his defense breaking down at the end of the game.
CLASS A IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN CLASS B!!!!!!!
SO MUCH FOR RYE DOMINATING CLASS A-THEY ARE OUT.
I have heard a lot of the Rye fans say they would beat New Rochelle, North Rockland, Stepinac Iona Prep Arlinton etc in Class AA. GIVE THAT A REST.
RYE ONLY HAD A RUN BECAUSE THEY WERE A CLASS B PROGRAM!!!!!!
SOUNDS LIKE RYE NEEDED 1 FIRST DOWN ON THERE LAST TWO POSSESIONS NAD THEY WOULD HAVE WON..YOU NEED TO PUNT OR QUICK KICK ON THAT LAST RYE DRIVE..YOU CANT GIVE THEM THE BALL AT THE 50
Rye accounted for themselves very well when you consider they beat Ossining, Nyack and Harrison all in 1 year after the move up to Class A. Also POK has been a Class AA program in the past. I remember POK taking New Rochelle to overtime a few years ago.
Dont blame the rye kids for the their two loses blame DINO! two horrible calls first in the eastchester game running a swap play with eck at the goal line for the victory then last night again running eck to the outside without punting! This season is on dino! we can’t blame our two defeats on the officals for losing two eastchester and pok. everyone knows even in pop warner line your d-backs up by the goal line and keep everything in front of you. maybe
he should have used a time out to explain this strategy what was the rye coaching staff thinking. thus don’t blame the players blame the coaching!
NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM POUGHKEEPSIE THEY ARE A GREAT GROUP OF KIDS.THEY DESERVE TO BE WHERE THAY ARE.AS FAR AS THE OFFICIATING THIS YEAR HAS BEEN THE WORST I HAVE SEEN IN 5 YEARS. ALOT OF GAMES WERE CHANGED BY BAD CALLS.LET THE KIDS PLAY FOOTBALL. AN OFFICIAL IS NOT SUPPOSE TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF A GAME THEY ARE THEIR TO KEEP IT CLEAN AND MAKE OBVIOUS CALLS. NOT CALLS THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT A PLAY 4 TIMES ON TAPE TO SEE IT.LAST WEEK SOMERS HAD THE BALL JUST BEFOUR HALF THEY WERE DRIVING FOR A TD THAT WOULD PUT THEM UO BY A 17/O MARGIN GOING INTO HALF TIME.
SOMERS RAN A PLAY FOR 15 OR SO YARDS INSIDE POK 15 YARD LINE
ITS CALLED BACK ON A CHOP BLOCK THAT DIDNT EXIST BY AN OFFICIAL ON THE POK SIDE LINE, BY A LINEMAN 15 YARDS AWAY FROM THE PLAY THATS BS.IM NOT USING THAT AS AN EXCUSE WHY WE LOST THE GAME BUT IT HURT.MY CONGRATS GO OUT TO POK THEY PULLED OFF 2 WINS ON THE ROAD GOOD LUCK IN THE SECTION CHAMPIONSHIP. I FEEL YOUR PAIN RYE
is rye done now or will they have a bowl game?
Dino blames the officials….so Dino of him
Kevin..how is that great assistant you mentioned… you are like the madden curse.
Go Pough!!!
So it looks like ROOSEVELT AND PK, 2 of the BIGGEST A SCHOOLS.
IN AA WILL BE NEW RO vs NORTH ROCK/ARL , THE THREE BIGGEST AA SCHOOLS
STILL THINK ENROLLMENT ISNT THE BIGGEST FACTOR?????????
Harrison/Yorktown today 10am @Feeley Field.
Rye:
On the view I had on the webcast, it looked like the receiver was so fast that he beat any angles a player could take on him. What a bunch of sour grapes to say some kid-safety made the worst play in history. You think you could have caught him? They lost. It happens! Sometimes the other team just plain makes the plays, regardless of oficiating or anything else. Rye may have been the best team in 1A this year, but Poughkeepsie deserved to win last night.
What the hell does Garr’s quote mean:“Throughout this whole stretch, I always thought these last (seven) years that if we were going to lose, we’d lose it on the field. I don’t think we did.” Believe it. It happened On The Feild as you put it, twice. Don’t try to take the win away or make it seem undesevred with such a stupid comment.
Good luck to Poughkeepsie – As Coach DeMatteo said you’re a great team/staff.
I’ll change the disputed quote – if POK is so great I guess Somers is great too!
In defense of Garr – unless you watch hours of film and know each player’s ability don’t second guess a coach’s call. They make the call for a reason. They also know when they get a bad call from an official.
“A lot could go wrong on a punt. It could have gotten blocked or a bad snap or whatever”-Dino
This is just ridicuolous. I’ve been to every Rye game this year and their long snapper is automatic. And as for a blocked punt? hasn’t happened all year either. Dino is stubborn and wanted to put them out for the count instead of playing it safe.
For all those who thought Rye could not compete, and compete well, in Class A – I think those questions were answered. Rye was within two last second plays ( stopped at Eastchester goal line being the other one) this season of being undefeated and heading into Section final next week.
“A” is most definitely tougher then “B”. Those dominant Rye years in “B” are over – but that does not mean Rye will not compete for “A” titles going forward. Lot’s of talent coming up – this is still a high quality program.
Last nights Poughkeepsie game was a heartbreaker for Rye, but lot’s of good memories from first season in A. Good luck in 2010 Garnets!!
Kudos to WingTGuy, Letsbehonest and DutchessFBFan for correctly picking Pok over Rye.
For all the uproar over Coach DeMatteo sarcastic comments after his loss to Pok last week, I think Coach Garr’s comments were 10x worse. The refs lost the game for him?? Thats an awful thing to say after a loss and an atrocious message of nonaccountability for his players. Maybe it was just the heat of the moment after a tough loss – that’s hard to argue with – I hope he’s singing a different tune today. Great, great game though.
Under the stands,
That was hilarious
To Rye Players
I know this was a very painful loss for all the Rye players but particularly for the seniors who have played their last high school game. It will take some time for it to pass. But it will.
Remember seniors,hold your heads up as you guys have had great football careers including having played on either 1 or 2 State Champion football teams AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST BEATING HARRISON during your years! Go on achieving in your other sports, the classroom and in the community.
RYE IS VERY PROUD OF YOU
GO GARNETS
To POK,
Great game and congrats on the win. Your guys played with a lot of grit and purpose. Oh did I forget great speed!!
Yes the calls of both coaches can be questioned and maybe some of the calls BUT that’s the breaks of the game.
Yes a punt by Rye would have been the percentage call but as a Rye fan you felt the team was capable of stopping POK. But they didn’t!
Good luck going forward to the dome.
A Rye fan.
Hoops,
Thanks..and yes Garrs comments were a joke..I wish Kevin posted a blog titled Garrs post game comments..wed be commenting until Thanksgiving..thats my only question…why not?? Kevin, how about some commentary on the sore sport comments from Garr..if he was a college coach hed be suspended or fined and the same for the pros…that being said..its HS football and the most important thing is not toeing the line but setting an apporpriate example for your student athletes..in any scenario Garr failed and to me…you were there..his slamming his hand on the desk as you so vividly described..wasnt tongue in cheek??Snide maybe…Jim???
GoNewRo, I believe a “mixed crew” in this case meant officials from both Westchester and Dutchess counties…
Re the “bad call” allegations: I know this probably won’t make some Rye fans feel better, but Poughkeepsie is no stranger to questionable calls which gave their opponents last-second victories. In 2007, PK took the lead over Mahopac with under a minute to go the game, only to be hit with two consecutive 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalties on the ensuing kickoff. Obviously, this gave Mahopac great field position, which allowed the Indians to win on a TD pass with seconds left to play. BTW, that game was played at Stitzel Field…
Anyway, congrats to Rye for maintaining its streak for as long as it has. I’m pretty sure the Garnets will start a new one eventually…
I had the opportunity a few years back to work on the same sideline with Coach Barger, and I am really happy for him that he is having the success that he is now. He is not only a fine coach, but he is a great leader of men, who cares far more for these kids as humans than he does as players. It is also nice to see John Biasotti have some success again, he is a great coordinator, just struggled a little as the head coach at Arlington. That all said, go get them PK we will all be rooting for you guys next week.
I have to agree with a few of the comments above. Having coached against Coach DeMatteo I did not feel his comments were a slap in the face as some had, but I was really bothered to read the quotes from Coach Garr in the paper today. The thing I learned as a coach is that very rarely do refs decide the game, it ALWAYS comes down to EXECUTION. The Poughkeepsie kids executed when it mattered most. Coach Garr’s comments took far more away from a great football game than did Coach Dematteo’s
DutchessFBFan,
I’m in agreement with you. Let’s not put any blame on Kevin though. He did the blog post about DeMatteo’s comments because there was a bit of an uproar over the comments from Kevin’s original post. I don’t think Kevin wanted to or meant to make a big deal of DeMatteo’s comments, but the posts on the blog necessitated him trying to set the record straight on DeMatteo’s sarcasm and intentions.
The problem with the whole DeMatteo thing was that it was obviously just a reading comprehension issue with some of the bloggers or that they didn’t get his obvious sarcasm – he wasn’t diminishing Pok at all, he was poking at the Somers critics who DeMatteo says thought Somers was terrible. If Somers was terrible as he alleged the critics said, therefore Pok must have no shot against Rye because Pok barely got by Somers.
Garr’s comments were atrocious and reek of sour grapes and being a sore loser. Like I said, maybe it was just being in the heat of the moment after a tough loss. He’s coming off two state championships in Class B and he blames refs for the loss?? Not classy at all. It also takes away from a great win for Pok. Pok won the game on the field, there is no doubt about that.
I’ve been confused this year why Rye fans keep referencing their recent Class B records of the last few/several seasons. The Class B records are out the window as soon as their Class A season started. There is a BIG difference from Class B to Class A – I think most Rye fans can agree with that now. It has seemed to me that many Rye fans (perhaps overconfident?) viewed their getting to the Dome again this year as a foregone conclusion, almost like it was a continuation of their reign in Class B. There have been dozens of “Dome” related comments from Rye fans this season. Judging from Coach Garr’s comments last night, its almost like he expected the same thing.
Either way, Rye had a very good season, particularly for their first year in Class A. I’d suspect next year they’ll be even stronger and better off with a year in Class A under their belt.
If Roosevelt can beat Lakeland today, this would set up a very intriguing Class A final between probably the two most exciting, fast teams in Class A.
To be fair, I also have to say that the great majority of Rye fans on this blog were very classy in defeat. Only a couple went the route of blaming the officials. They definitely seem like classy fans after a very tough loss.
Dont get me wrong guys, Rye is a top tier class A team that can beat ANY team any given day any given class.
Just don’t throw that 77-5 since 2002 non-sense at us upper class guys. We know that 77-5 was not legit/credible.
That Cake walk to the dome is over now, This is class A.
I do have one problem and I’m just as guilty….... OUR MOUTHS WERE SHUT AS WE WAITED FOR RYE TO GO DOWN TO SUDDENLY POUNCE ON THE PROGRAM AND POUND OUR CHESTS PROMOTING THE GREATNESS OF OUR CLASS!!!!
Look I admit that I thought Rye was going to take it all. I actually wanted them to take it all but at the same time I’m kind of happy some of you Rye bloggers have been humbled.
Speed kills doesn’t it!!!
Hey is it me or am I the only one to think or notice that the last play was a break away play with nobody from Rye being fast enough to catch the guy. Meaning, it could have happened from 30, 60, or 90 yards out? especially with Ryes non fast secondary playing tight?
Hey Kevin Devaney are you too good not to address why you seem to jump at the opportunity of soiling the name of Rye opponents?
Dutchess FB Fan
I already posted about my feelings regarding this game last night. I think Dino is a great HS coach …I said the same thing about DeMatteo last week. It’s easy for you to be a moralist. You are coming on here the day after a big win…not talking about the big win….but being critical of a coach. Real or perceived, when you think the officials have just contributed to ending your season and someone sticks a microphone under your chin five minutes later…you are not always going to say the politically correct thing. I want to ask you a few questions. Have you ever seen a game at any level where so many penalties were called on fourth down to extend drives? Have you ever seen a 85 yd. drive that contained all passing plays but one, where the QB went 1 for 7 and the team actually scored? Where it looked to the naked eye that the player that caught the winning touchdown pass was heading upfield before the snap? If you were the coach of the team that lost this game with all this fresh in your mind are you telling me you would be Joe Control right after the final whistle. Last night I still gave Poughkeepsie all the credit in the world for winning this game. No team could possibly overcome bigger odds to come back and win.As I said last night they never quit at any time, even though many of their fans obviously did, by parading up and out through the concrete stands on the Rye side before the end of the game. I also was 100% sincere in saying the Poughkeepsie team demonstrated tremendous sportsmanship during and after the game. Finally, don’t make the coach the issue…take your own advice and be humble and quiet in victory. Good luck next week in Mahopac. Let’s hope that if you win that theopposing coach will not be trashed like DeMatteo and Garr have been the last two weeks.
“I think we could be the second-best defense in the section if we can shut out Ossining,” DeMatteo said. “The kids are very proud of their defense.”
Yikes!!!
Dino Garr needs to accept the fact that they lost, and give credit to POK. It’s High school football!
and you rye haters you’ll love this
Since Fox Lane beat Pok that means Fox Lane is better than Rye (Rye’s logic for the whole year)
obviously i would pick Rye to beat FL, but it shows how dumb Rye fans are…
Welcome to Class A
Welcome to Class A.. that is a good one jerk off..
I am in total agreement with everyone that says that the only reason that Rye was good during this decade was because they competed against teams in their own enrollment classification. I also want to say that teams from Nyack only won NYS class A titles because they didn’t compete in AA….and Harrison stunk with Maldonado because they weren’t playing A teams and Edgemont surely was only so so because they didn’t play in B. Also, there is absolutely no doubt that because Rye didn’t win Class A this year surely signifies that they would never have won A during their recent 6 year run through lowly Class B.
A lot of things could go wrong on a punt like punt block, bad snap… Bull $hit Garr new that if one of those Pok speed deamons fielded the punt, that it was going back for the TD.
I still can’t believe at how slow the rye secondary was on that last play.
Rye has a great program. You can say they could of one A all of those years (even though I doubt they could of be 03 or 04 Nyack), but you cant say they would of done it in convincing fasion (i.e. going undefeated, and blowing teams out like the way they did in class B).
Can Rye win the section next year? Yes! but will they go undefeated? probally not!
A lot of people are saying next year Harrison beats rye
Kevin before last night, when was the last time rye lost at home
Jim,
Coach Garr is what 65…??If he hasnt seen it before , neither have I at my age..there are many things I havent seen in life with my own children, and Ive tried to always conduct myself with class and as a role model to them and their friends in times of adversity…admittedly not always successfully, but youve been around the game and program enough to know thats as bush league a post game comment as has ever been uttered by a Rye coach..Coach Nugent and all of Dinos predecessors are turning in their graves?But hey Connor Eck is back next year so you just reload…in the end it was a 6-2 team..nice year but mediocre by Rye standards..and thats no offense to the coaches or kids..it is who they are!
Jim you know I always have your back because….well…. Your one of the few bloggers who actually know something.
But I have to tell you…...actually I dont have to tell you…. you know that theres a distinction between AA and A with class B. The A classes are much closer then there comes B.
Whats your take?
Dutchess,
You are correct. Rye has to punt in that situation. If you are nervous, do the pooch punt as you suggested.
To me the other HUGE BLUNDER was what Kev Brought up:
“Rye then went 3-and-out, running just 32 seconds off the clock was Poughkeepsie used two timeouts and an incomplete pass”.
You need to burn more time off the clock or make them use all the time outs. That to me is just as inexcusable as not punting.
With all that said, it will always be easier making these type of gut wrenching decisions from the stands or from behind a computer.
I would assume when you’re on that side line, it just gets crazy and I certainly do not envy having to make those tough decisions with all those people ready to second guess you.
I don’t know about everyone else. I believe Rye can win A, but I just don’t think they can win A going undefeated. They cannot win A in the fashion they won B in. They got beat by Eastchester fair and sqaure, that game should of been a shutout if it was not for a mistake by the eastchester coach to go for it on a 4th down.
Rye could have won A from 05-until now but I dont think they would of done it undefeated. They were definitely not beating nyack in 03 or 04 not while we were winning state championships 43-0 and rye was losing them 49-0, but thats not the point
One thing that we can all agree on is that Rye has probably went through the most gruesome schedule in section 1 ever. To go through teams like ossining, eastchester, nyack, harrison, roosevelt, poughkeepsie and to come out with only 2 losses is amazing. Had nyack had Rye’s schedule I think we would of had our first losing season
But like i said, I don’t ever see rye steamrolling through A like the way they did in B
Hoops,
Disagree. Coach Dematteo’s comments are just as bad as Garr this week.
We all understand sarcasm. There is no place for a coach to use Sarcasm right after you lost. If you are that peeved, just give some quick quips congratulating the other team and END the interview.
I am a big Coach D supporter, but I am objective enough to know he made a mistake.
Dino, was also wrong. He should of done the quick quips and kicked people out of his office.
lol look at this pic…
http://jukebox.lohud.com/photos/popup/index.php?section=sports&offset=0
he is sick
Rye in class A couldn’t beat Nyack 5 years streight from 2000 to 2004. Those Nyack Squads would have torn through Rye. It wouldn’t even be close.
This is mere speculation but all the logic in the world supports this speculation just as much as it supports that Rye would have been just as dominant from 2005 through 2007 in class A (thats 3 years). As for last years Nyack vs. Last years Rye I’m going with Rye but its not a guarentee.
And this year we just seen what happened.
Rye is the truth because this Decade in class A would have been all Nyack/Rye if Rye was here long enough.
wow…it is a sad day in Rye today…I do not think that anyone in Nugent Stadium (on the Rye side) suspected how the last seconds of the game were going to unfold….
BUT I WLL SAY THIS
Hold your heads high Garnets, be proud, you all played your hearts out day in and day out, made the big plays,fared exceptionally well in Class A, and I think every Rye fan will agree,You gave us all something to look forward to each week..
I don’t think I’ll go the Dino bashing route it’s all been said…What I wish though is that at some time he tells his team what they need to hear and it should be similar to my comments above, but I don’t think he will..which is sad. Maybe he is, like Mohammed Ali, “The Greatest”...I don’t know but I think to be a great coach you need to teach by example, and sometimes the lesson should be humility…I think he missed that lesson in “Great Coaching School”...
Good Luck to POK
Jax,
Im getting tired saying it…AA North is by far the toughest league in Section 1 and maybe NYS publics..when the crappiest team is JJCR and they would beat many of the top A teams and everyone slobbers over Carmel who was manhandled by Mahopac and RCK but who beat JJEF and Arlington..you tell me..also Mahopac, JJCR and RCK havent lost out of league yet and not close games more than a 30 point differential..so you tell me…I think JJCR wins again today against Scarsdale and Mahopac avenges a loss to RCK in a close game that is going on now…
WOW!
Who would have ever believed that rye could lose that game, especially after the 1st half! Rye was TOTALLY dismantleing the POK team in the first half and it surely looked to be a toal routin the making. Rye was running and passing at will and POK could do really nothing offesively.
Watching the game in the 3rd quarter and how Rye came out afetr the half, you could sense that things were changing quickly. Rye looked overconfident, like the game was already over (reflecting their fans?) and seemed to lack any fire. I also believe that Eck did not look right to me. he took a real shot on the last play of the first half, and he did not seem right to me after that! When PK scored on the first possession on the 2nd half and then held Rye to a FG when they had first and goal at the 2 ( again no Eck pass or run) the game turned and POK had the mo!
The less said about the officiating the better, and it seems to me that the more Garr gets incensed and in the officials face the more crucial calls go against Rye. I think the penalties were 16 to 3 or something rediculous like that. The POK ends were moving many times during the game and on the final play he was a good yard into Rye’s backfield when the ball was snapped.
You can’t blame the officials though. If I was to lay blame it would be on the way Rye came out to play (or not to play) in the 2nd half. They were not hitting anywhere like they were hitting in the first half, gave POK an opening and give lots of Credit to POK they took advantage.
Rye had the team to go all the way in state this year. all of you who say B would have been a cakewalk for them are probably right. In B they can get away with lackluster or uninspired play, not in A and last night proved it.
Hail to POK and their coaching staff who believed and simply did not quit when all the world (including the Rye team and coaches?) seemed to think they were dead. Good luck against Roosevelt, may the best team win and represent sec 1 well!
AA north has more depth than the West and South. Thats what it really is.
From a scale of 1 to 10 the AA north has a bunch of 8’s. Every program is an 8 in that league. Where as in the west and South you have your 4,5,6’s.. occasional 7’s… then a 10 program.
league for league, the AA north will always get more victories but the West and South will hone in the Juggernauts.
former eagle present garnet,
Your screen name sounds like a Kevin Devaney Jr.
Hey Coach Garr…. How about some respect? I have seen a lot of sectional football games and that was one of the best. Stop worrying about officiating. The Westchester Coaches are really feeling it right now. They are finally getting theirs! Go Pioneers!!!!
Wake up,smell the coffee.Rye could compete with New Ro? Win a playoff in A first.Worry about what Harrison has in store for you guys next season.The party is over.
Agreed on your posts about the 2000 to 2004 Nyack Squads. Keep in mind that in 2001 Greeley shanked us LOL they ended up in the carrier dome that year too.
South East NYS has caught up to section 1 class A and AA but they haven’t really caught up to class B yet…. thats why Rye was bathing in Garnet syrup all those years.
Harrison had a better class A debut than Rye LOL.
Jim,
I agree with some of what you said. Certainly, five minutes after a tough loss is a rough time to make comments – I said the same thing in my post. But I still think you’re letting him off way too easy for what he said. It was a pretty awful comment to make regardless of timing.
Regarding what you said about Rye. No one on this blog has disparaged Rye’s program. Everyone thinks Rye would be a perennial contender in Class A probably every year had they been there for the past decade, though there are also years where they would likely finish 6-2 or possibly 5-3. The difference is Rye fans who treat winning Class B as close to the same as winning Class A or AA. I’m not saying this is you, but there is a big difference between B and A and also likely a difference btw AA and A (particularly at the top)
Just a fact,
You’re right in the sense that DeMatteo should’ve also not said what he said, but the main difference is that DeMatteo wasn’t being serious, he was intentionally being sarcastic. If someone mistook his comments it could be read as taking away from Pok, though not his intention. However, Garr meant what he said, which directly takes away from his opponent. DutchessFBFan called it “bush League” – i agree. Great coach, great program, just a really bad comment. And like I said earlier, he may be totally contrite for his comments today.
Rye lost because in the 2nd Half the players were already thinking about what they were going to come onto the blog and write, rather than focusing on finishing the game.
Hoops Fan,
You’re correct. Nobody is doubting Ryes ability in class A and we all know they would be not just good but one of the best but you can throw that 77-5 or 97-13 whatever you wanna call it record out the window because that doesn’t fly up in this league ya dig?
Dont worry Rye fans, I been here before.
When your team is on top, everyones quiet until suddenly you fall then the world of criticism comes down on your beloved program.
Dont start a war of comments on here because it’s clear that attempt would be futile. Simply let the fire calm.
As for the rest of all you bloggers, You’re comments have made my day. This is the blog to be on for a good laugh. You guys are the best!
10960,
I think you’re misdiagnosing what you’re reading. First off, in sports you get lauded often when you win and critiqued often when you lose – thats just the way of the world. A blog would be no different.
Most of the comments that you may read as less that laudatory towards Rye today essentially amount to “this isn’t Class B anymore.” On a scale of negative comments it could be a lot worse. Everyone seems to acknowledge Rye is here to stay as a top contender in Class A. However, there are non-Rye fans who have gotten a little tired of hearing Rye fans who say they are heading to the Dome (you don’t hear the same language from most other Section 1 fans) or could beat anyone in Section 1 regardless of Class. Rye losing in the semis during their first Class A season doesn’t mean Rye isn’t an excellent team, but it negates the argument that Rye is possibly the best team in the section outside of New Ro.
The minor string of luke warm comments you’re reading towards Rye seem to be similar in origin to the rash of negative comments toward an unnamed school on Wilmot Road in New Rochelle that has become a lightning rod on this blog. Bloggers who are not fans of these programs seem happy to point out their shortcomings or failings.
who is downplaying rye’s program. Everyone believes they would be one of the top teams in A year in and year out, and they already are. But forget about them EVER going undefeated, unscored upon, etc. Had Rye been in AA north they probably wouldn’t be going to the playoffs.
I’m not mad at the Garr comments. Refs sometimes do have an affect on the outcome of the game.
Bottom line is that poughkeepsie had more heart than rye did. Poughkeepsie had better athletes than rye. Poughkeepsie was faster than rye.
Speed is Rye’s kryptonite! Lets not forget Roosevelt scored a very legitimate 26 points on Rye. They broke on 3 or long plays, where rye players did not have enough speed to hawk them down.
Can someone answer my trvia question… When was the last time rye lost a home game?
Rye good luck in your bowl game against Lakeland, lol. Damn thats what hurts the most, they dont even get a somers, fox lane, or Ossining. Their seniors will remember their last game as playing lakeland in the dematteo bowl
Somers Fans,
Knock, knock….
Whos There????
Coach Castellano!!!!
Coach Castellano Who????
Exactly!!!
Looks like Coach D didnt share his gameplan this time…Thank God
Did anyone see if they interacted???
What was the comment about Ossining..maybe I misunderstood but seemed like another idiotic statement..can someone please enlighten me???
I gave him the benefit of the doubt last week..but was confused by the best defense in the section mumbo jumbo comment…Help??
Dino started off great, taking the heat for not punting but then….....the whining and crying about the officials.
“I don’t think we did.” “Did you watch the game? Did you?”
Boo Hoo….what am I gonna do?.....”YOU CAN ACT LIKE A MAN!!!”
ATTENTION O’TOWN:
PS, Nice quote by Tony”the ledgend”DeMatteo….”if we can shut out Ossining”. NO FURTHER MOTIVATION SHOULD BE NECESSARY THIS WEEK. Good Luck.
Coach castellano who?
3 time state champ contender, 2 time state champ winner, 9 time section champ contender 7 time section champ winner, 5 time league A west coach of the year, 2 time rockland county coach of the year, 1 time NYS coach of the year, 1 time NY giants coach of the week!!!
Ooooooo that Castellano
The nyack
I guess you silenced the knock knock joke holy moly!
THE BLOG WILL PERISH:
I looks like a Keepsie-TR Class A final.(if the frogs are in it I may pull a Frankie Five Angels)
The 2 teams who just dropped down from AA in the Class A final: Let the talk of Classifications and numbers begin.
The 2 teams from the opposite ends of the section are in the finals: Let the talk of scheduling begin.
Keepsie beats the HoyPoloy from Rye and TR beats up on the solid middle class kids from Shrub Oak: Let the talk of money and power and community support begin.
The 2 teams in class a from the lowest part of the socio-economic spectrum, the inner city kids of TR and the inner city kids from the outer city Keepsie are in the final: Let that discussion we had last week on the doctoral thesis “The relative impact of socio-economics on high school football in the Lower Hudson Valley” rear its’ugly head again.
These are just a few of the things that will keep the blog moving along.
“The blog will never perish from the face of the earth”!!
The Nyack…
Perhaps my humor went unnoticed..was a shot at the Somers idiots(particularly Somers fan and player Ross Weiner) and Coach D’s inabilty to interact with his friend..Im well versed in Nyack and Coach C’s achievements..thats what makes the alleged rift so silly between the two…My point was he still doesnt have the class to reach out to his friend and protege before this game..and I find it hard to believe its over a bootlegged gameplan??
the last play of the game was the worst defense i have seen in my whole entire life. wow .
Castellano and DeMatteo aren’t getting along? explain. i never heard of this.
As a seasoned and knowledgeable Rye fan I’m confident I can speak for many other similar Rye fans when I say that:
1) Contrary to waht some bloggers have said above Rye should be 150% proud of its substantial accomplishments in its record within Class B as should any team within ANY Class. Rye just wasn’t handed that record. They worked hard for it!
2) But being proud of past Class B accomplishments has no implication or message at all that Rye came into this season being “owed” any extra credibility to win any games in A. That couldn’t be further from the truth.
3) Yes while Rye felt (just as I’m sure other Class A schools did) that they had a good shot at the title, IT WASN’T BASED UPON THE PAST (although “winning” lots of games is a positive for confidence) but on the objective fact of judging its talent THIS YEAR. Again waht really excited Rye fans was the chance to compete at a higher level KNOWING that this also brought on the real possibility of losing games.
BELIEVE ME RYE FANS DIDN’T AND DONT NEED CLASS A FANS TO REMIND US OF THIS.
Good luck to POK going forward.
ManInTheStands
Your an instigator, I see your point but your a tool for making it. please do this blog a favor and shut your dumb A$$ up….. thank you, you idiotic moron.
Pougheekpsi didnt win it rye lost it. rye shot itself in the foot several times. All rye had to do was punt the ball and they would have won. Ok they didnt punt it then all they have to do is stop one play from the fifty yard line. Rye didnt deserve to win, they didnt, its as simple as that. Worst team rye has had in a long long time.
slacrosse,
I’m not sure if your comments are directed partly to me. If so, let me be clear that all of Rye’s accomplishments – winning state championships in class B – are just as much an accomplishment to be proud of as winning a AA state title or A or C or D. Winning any state title speaks for itself.
The only difference I see is the argument made by some Rye fans that their team was in several years past the best or second best program in all of Section 1. Now that they’re in Class A, Rye has a chance to prove on the field how good they are against far better competition. Also, of course, most top teams have confidence, but no other Section 1 teams fans have talked more about them heading to the Dome this year than Rye’s fans. That can rub other fans the wrong way, particularly when Rye had never been to the Dome in Class A.
It just simply wasnt meant to be for rye. If it was meant to be then the officials would have gotten it right. Everyone go back and watch the last play of the game, forget the terrible pass interference calls. Just watch the last play of the game, the officials should of thrown the flag for an offsides call by Poukheepsie. I dont want to sit here and gloat about that, the point im trying to make is that you win some you lose some, and this season was just not meant to be for Rye. Rye will be back, and yes it hurts right now but they need to really have a gut check right now. Eck needs to sit down his seniors, and make a commitment that this won’t happen again, because this season was hard to swallow. Sometimes you have to realize that, seasons and teams are ones of destiny and fate, and the man up above for some reason didn’t want this team to do it. Rye played well enough to win, it just simply wasn’t in our deck of cards. That’s the way i look at it atleast.
Although Rye was pretty good this year, and i commend them beating harrison but keep in mind this, the Rye 2008 Team would of beaten this years team by three to four touchdowns. The 2007 Rye team would of won by around 14. The 2006 team startes would of been out by halftime, and the 2005 team starters would of been out by the first quarter due to large blow outs. This 2009 Rye team did not exemplify Rye’s dynasty, greatness as you can see they are the first team to lose. Bearing Any injuries in the 2005, 2006, and 2008 Rye would of won the Class A section one championship and gone very far into the State playoffs. Its as simple as that so dont put this year’s rye team under the same tab as the Rye teams that have actually won section and state titles. This Rye team, was over rated. Their secondary was bad, the Linebackers were young. They lacked something and im still trying to figure it out.
Although Rye was pretty good this year, and i commend them for beating harrison but keep in mind this, the Rye 2008 Team would of beaten this years team by three to four touchdowns. The 2007 Rye team would of won by around 14. The 2006 team startes would of been out by halftime, and the 2005 team starters would of been out by the first quarter due to large blow outs. This 2009 Rye team did not exemplify Rye’s dynasty, greatness as you can see they are the first team to lose. Bearing Any injuries in the 2005, 2006,2007,and 2008 Rye would of won the Class A section one championship and gone very far into the State playoffs. Its as simple as that so dont put this year’s rye team under the same tab as the Rye teams that have actually won section and state titles. This Rye team, was over rated. Their secondary was bad, the Linebackers were young. They lacked something and im still trying to figure it out.
Domination,
Bear in mind that the 2006 PK team was good too. The starters would not have been out by halftime. That team took New Ro to 3OT and was an extra point away from an upset. They also beat Gorton 29-0 the next week with much of their stars taking SAT’s for the first half.
Domination,
How convenient that this year’s Rye team just happened to be the weakest in years – their first year in Class A. And that all the other recent Rye teams would’ve won the section in Class A and ‘gone deep into the state playoffs.’ Can you tell me where on another blog this year you’ve said last year’s team would’ve won by 3 or 4 touchdowns? Keep in mind, teams look a lot better when they’re playing against weaker competition. The better teams will exploit flaws that weaker teams can’t. Let’s just be happy that Rye dominated Class B in the years you mentioned and not make these highly hypothetical statements about winning the Class A Sectional title. I know Nyack and Ossining had some outstanding teams recently that would’ve given Rye all it can handle, not to mention Pok. Most Pok fans would agree that this Pok team is excellent, but other of their recent teams have been just as good. You said rhetorically that this Rye team was missing something and you weren’t sure what it was – a cynic might say class B teams. That being said, going into next year, I’d pick Rye as the favorite in Class A. WHo is going to fill in for McCormack?
Hoops Fan,
You are right. I’m glad Barger is getting the most out of this years team, it shows his hard work is paying off. However PK in 2001-2003, 2005 and 2006 were great teams as well. Would have been great to see these games then but whatever the past is the past for a reason
statesman,
Very good points about the other Pok teams. On a separate note, not bad beating DeMatteo and Garr in successive weeks for Barger.
Class A this season was totally unpredictable.Upset city,one mistake or turnover you’re gone.Rye fans set the bar high for a walk through to the dome.Unfortunately things did not work out that way.You really can’t take anything away from the Garnets,who in my opinion,played solid ball through out the entire season.The bottom line is,there is stronger competition in A,teams looking to make a statement who are capable of winning in big game situations.I’m not even talking about upstate A competition,which gets even better.Pk made statement Friday,it a big way.They were on a mission and would not be denied a shot at the title…..
POWER HOUSE.
M.I.T.S. is a dumb a$$,tool,moron but you see his point. What does that make you?
Hoops fan,
Thanx for the response. Most Rye fans I know felt that rye “had a good shot” or “good chance” to go to the dome and that rye would be very competitive in A which, the ladder of which turned out to be the case. I think this was a “fair” and not naive feeling coming into the season based upon the personnel. Not at all a “definite” but a “good chance”.
As I said earlier, Rye fans just appreciated the chance to play and respect a better brand of teams, even if it meant not going to the Dome.
Yes I agree that going too far overboard, cocky, etc. in one’s predictions can lead to an over-reaction.
domination:
so what’s your point. it is not 2006 / 2007 / 2008…it is 2009 and rye is done – period.
and roosevelt’s 1996 team would’ve destroyed rye’s 2006 / 2007 / 2008 team’s – so what, what does that mean or justify for high school football – nothing.
live in the present!!!
pok vs. roosevelt!!! who would’ve thought?????
Jeff P.
Thank you. I didn’t know what was meant by that “mixed crew” label. So you mean they live in Dutchess county or Westchester county – how would any spectator know that? All section 1 refs can get assigned to any game in the section 1 territory, right?
My point is that, you are all broadly basing this years Rye team as a measuring stick to our success or ability to compete in Class A or with other big schools. I hear people saying “O we all knew it Rye cannot win A” “A is too good for Rye”. This is the farthest from the Truth and as i pointed at this years Rye team was proabably the sixth best team out of all the years from 2003 to 2008. Im saying that you cannot disresepct the teams that won Section and state titles, and make remarks that they could not of competed for a State title in A. It is all speculation but you cannot base this season as the total measuring stick for all the years that played before these guys. rye will be back, but for now its Roosevelt’s and Pougheekpies time.
It just simply wasnt meant to be for rye. If it was meant to be then the officials would have gotten it right. Everyone go back and watch the last play of the game, forget the terrible pass interference calls. Just watch the last play of the game, the officials should of thrown the flag for an offsides call by Poukheepsie. I dont want to sit here and gloat about that, the point im trying to make is that you win some you lose some, and this season was just not meant to be for Rye. Rye will be back, and yes it hurts right now but they need to really have a gut check right now. Eck needs to sit down his seniors, and make a commitment that this won’t happen again, because this season was hard to swallow. Sometimes you have to realize that, seasons and teams are ones made up of destiny and fate, and the man up above for some reason didn’t want this team to do it. Rye played well enough to win, it just simply wasn’t in our deck of cards. That’s the way i look at it atleast.
Domination,
First, it might be a good time to change your screenname.
All of what you’re saying is purely hypothetical. I also pointed out that I didn’t hear much of what you’re saying before they lost, just now after they bowed out in the semis. This year is the measuring stick for Rye in Class A (until next year) whether you like it or not because it was the only year they have been able to prove it on the field, not just in the mind of Rye partisans.
Next year, Rye can prove they will/would/could win Class A, just like they hypothetically would have in years past. It sounds a little ridiculous now that Rye is in Class A and didn’t win, to go back and say we theoretically would’ve won in years past – there is no basis for that argument whatsoever. Just focus on reality and things that are more easily proven on the field. As long as Rye stays in Class A they can prove every year how good they are vs. the best Class A teams.
slacrosse,
Frankly, I thought Rye would win the title when the playoffs began – I didn’t go so far to say the states because I don’t know whats around the state. What I tried to point out is that bloggers on this blog and bloggers in general don’t like seeing one teams fans overhype their team (particularly in this case if the team had never played at that level before). If that team slips up from the fans preconceived expectations (i.e. Iona Prep) bloggers of other schools will be all over them. Fortunately, in this case the bloggers who seem to be non-Rye fans have been reserved and not at all irrational and insulting as I’ve seen in the other case.
Rye has a great program and will be back strong next year. Pok, Roosevelt, Nyack, Ossining, Somers, Lakeland, Eastchester and Fox Lane all seem to be losing more to graduation than Rye does, so I would think Rye goes into next year as the favorite. Harrison should be good as well. Davis comes back for Nyack – they should also be good.
That’s alright that’s OK we beat HARRISON anyway. As bad as we all feel, we all know that the most important thing is beating the Huskies.
Rye Coach needs to man up – you got beat. Period. Props to PK!
PLEASE! Give me a break! class b state champs Big Deal!
Get over yourselves Rye your not that good just an AVG A school.
And the Coach is really good? not punting? way to kill your team!!!
Last thought on Rye vs. P Town: It seems that Rye stopped playing Physical. No big plays on “D” in second half for Rye; Fumble or INT. P Town got away with movement most every play. Coach Garr should have been letting the refs know?? Give it to P-Town they stepped it up in the 2nd half and Rye let air out of their tires. Penalties are part of game; of the discussion of the pass int’s I believe at least 2 were legit. At some point you must let the kids play if it is not a mugging let it go. 4th and 6 for Rye, myself I would have punted, stretch the field. Maybe Dino thought his “D” could not stop them any where on the field, if that is the case you go for it. But make sure you have the right play called and you get the 6 yards or you might get “For Sale” signs in your front lawn. To the last play, where was the leadership on defense?? someone needed to remind everyone THEY MUST STOP THEM, NO ONE GETS FREE. Rye should have had 8 DB’s and 3 lineman on the field. I did not see 41 or 10 on the field on that play??? (are they not the fastest players on Rye??) Well in looks like Roosevelt vs. P Town (AA teams in costume) Good luck to them. To the players of Rye past and present GREAT RUN.
Riverindian,
you really think your smart don’t you?
I can see someones point but they can still be a dumb a$$ for making it you tool.
Dont jump all up in the convo without logic you dumb a$$.
Hey Rye guys would you just accept the loss and shut up?? damn you guys are a bunch of sore losers holy cow!!!
River Indian don’t cross that road again without bringing a legitimate dialogue to the table you fool.
Somers and Fox Lane will be very good next year. Somers will probably be one of the tops next year. Same with Fox Lane, TJ hallock will most likely take over for the Foxes at QB.
Actually, GoNewRo, this whole “mixed crew” idea is more of a theory than a fact… I remember the PA announcer at the Somers game mentioning the officiating crew was made up of Dutchess and Westchester officials, so I assumed a similar arrangement was in place for the Rye game…
Rye holds on every play. Watch the numerous films of their linemen with handfulls of jersey. It’s nice to see a few officials grew a set in a big game and threw the hankie. Also, nice to see Don Castellano be taken care of by the Zebras. Still, everyone knows Don Ricci will have a tough time dealing with the Somers- friendly officiating given to the mafioso Don Tony
Jeff P.
Ok – thank you. I guess that makes sense.
DutchessFBfan
Either you weren’t at the Somers Nyack game or you are blind.
Coach D embraced every Nyack coach, talked to Coach C and his son Mark and wife Donna at the game.
As usualy you guys like to make s——up.
DutchessFBfan,
Either you weren’t at the Somers Nyack game or you are blind.
Coach D embraced all the Nyack coaches including Coach C, hugged his son Mark and talked to his wife.
You guys just like to make s—- up.
Enough said, wasnt there.. Hopefully we Somers/Rye
Just a fact,
What are we looking like on those standings
If you get A CHANCE WATCH THE TAPE ON msg VARSITY on Mon night. Rye gets mugged on a third down pass on their last possession before the 4th down play, no call.
Same official calls three pass interference penalties in the next series. complete joke.
I fully expect that the entire program will learn from this fiasco and change th offensive tempo and run/pass mix for next year.
If I was Dino no mercy to any Secton 1 teams. Every chance I get I score, and I work over the refs every call that they miss.
This crew from Friday night should be re-assigned to flag football at the rec league level.
I hope that Section 1 reviews this tape and uses it as teaching tool for the rest of the officials so this garbage never repeats.
we’ll be ready in the Fall of 2010 and look out!
Ok ok ok….first…The Nyack..i get your humor but seriously I went to Eastchester H.S. and either played or cheered,,,not telling.so no devaney here…
second…Dino and staff did NOT put the best team on the field offensively or defensively all season but everyone just gushed about them..and I am a garnet parent..not a bitter one, just not a Dino Lover..as most are, he is not the pope and most want to kiss his ring…or rings as i should say..he is not God, the coaching staff are honestly mediocre at best..and let’s all remember the kids did not call the plays friday night, Dino or someone did….Dino and satff are at fault because they are also a team just like the kids who worked hard all season, the parents who gave their all, the staff at the school..they did not put the best players on the field which surely showed in the 4th qtr friday night…and well, see where it got them…???oh yes, nowhere,,and I certainly hope that they either opt out of the “bowl game” or are smart enough to play their less than “premier players” because some of them have committments and much higher stakes at risk than a silly consolation game..but we all know the Dino way of thought..”up the middle” “up the middle” “up the middle” with whoever..I just pray no one gets hurt…
scottinrye…i hope all your dreams for 2010 come true..
yes the officiating was horrible friday, but seriously I think this is the beginning of the end for Dino..maybe not right away, but it seems to be in the near future..he completely messed up and lost the game for his team by his play calling and they will forever remember that(even if they won’t admit it now) ..and he did not lose gracefully…he was a big baby as I hear he has always been..so maybe everything OLD is new again….maybe he should take some lessons from Fred DiCarlo a truly class act..
power house
I was not being an instigator, just making a sarcastic reference to the nonsense that went on here last week.
In addition, if I am a moron what does that make you?
Your posts exhibit a command of the English language that could have only come from one of our top notch public school systems sometime after 1980 no doubt.
TO ALL THE KEEPSIE FANS: Glad to have you all in the house. I would like an update. What has become of the Spencer kid who had that unfortunate injury in his NFL debut with the Texans last season?
Kid was a man among boys in high school.
I do not know why guys contiue to do this but as a reminder, this is a BLOG. Once you bring up spelling or grammar, it just means you lost the argument and can’t come up with a good come back. If you can’t defend yourself just eat it. Playing the spelling/grammar card is just pure pathetic. Any of us can copy paste to Word than bring back to here, but why waste the time.
rye is a powerful team. they smoked a lot of great A teams this year and were a last second play away from doing damage in the playoffs and you all know it. watch the F out for Rye next year. i wouldnt want to play them.
in the meantime, i am rooting for POK
Spilt crews are real. All it means is that two or three positions are from a crew from westchester and the other positions are from another association (i.e. Rockland if it is a rockland team). Playoff games with two counties in it will have a split crew.
After coming out of shock, I figured it out, this is my take.
When in doubt blame Harrison.lol..See, if TJ Storino does not hurt his ankle on the opening kickoff at Harrison and miss Nyack and was clearly not fully strength vs Pough (he did catch a TD pass) he would of been the fastest Rye player in the secondary on friday night, who knows could that of helped? We all saw what did happen, so I figured I’d add my thoughts.
BTW, Does Rye play anymore games? Pehaps a Somers Rye match would be a nice way to end this season?
Eagle/Garnet, I guess your not going to the Frank McGuire Foudation Dinner to honor your boy Dino? It’s November 18 @ NYAC. Tables are avaiable. Maybe the Pough coach will come and thank Dino for his early Christmas present! Next year Rye just reloads as usual from a talented JV (1 loss) and some nice young players on the horizon for the Gmen.
Jim, Check your email, I sent you some images from the game.
The correct title for this article should be “The run is over for this year”. The Rye run will begin again on Monday when the kids hit the Y and the HS weight room.
Welcome to real football Rye! A was down this year and lose in semis. You will never win with the big boys.
Hey formereagle
I would like to know. what players should have played if the COACHES at Rye did not put the best players on the field. If you are going to call the coaches out .. who should have been out there? Everyone thinks their kid is the best.. so give me some players please. Since you know so much about football.
politics do play a role in a small amount of starting positions on the garnets. That is a fact known amongst all who have played with them.
As a PK fan, Im still in shock. Words can’t describe how happy I am. We’ve came close so many times…02 & 03 lost in the finals to great Nyack teams.
Keep in mind the Poughkeepsie JV team went undefeated (8-0), so although they lose alot, theyll be bringing some talent up too!
rocket
Get a grip. This chance for Section 1 championship was gift wrapped and delivered by the worst officiating I have seen on a HS level.
Make sure those three boys don’t show up on the daily attendance for next year, it would be a real shame if you had to move back to AA
Watch the gamereplay on MSG on Monday night and don’t blow your chance next Sat.
I garuntee you that you want have another chance in your lifetime.
The fact of the mattter is , Dino is a good coach but very political. Of course their have been kids that have come through the system very talented and capable of starting but Garr doesn’t start them. the truth here is that Rye had so many hole and flaws this year. Past teams of this Rye Garnet Dynasty were just all about business. They studied in the film room and exposed every teams weakness. This Rye team i believe had a bad secondary, a weak defensive line, and they lacked the Leader.Im not knocking Cole McCormack but ask any Rye player that played with him, he was no Kyle Ramalho, or Fulmer, or Antico, or Smith. Something was just flawed from the beggining with this team. I will keep trying to figure it out and ill post my thoughs.
This Rye team was Plagued from the beggining. They lacked ideal speed with their secondary. Dino was basking in last years team glory who he was so fond of. Sometimes as a coach it’s hard to see so many new faces. This team lacked the leader. Im not knocking McCormack or Nage, but they cant even hld a candle to guys like Ramalho , Fulmer, Antico, Smith, Donelly, Nieves. To be great you need that leader the kid that has that it factor. This team was flawed. And in the beggining of Novemeber their not even playing football, that hasn’t happened in a long time over at Rye.
The secondary simply wasn’t good enough to contend with the more passing oriented teams. Their corners hadn’t faced much of a passing threat all year, and were exploited when they faced one.
I am still reading this crap #35 beat Rye.. #35 Did.. Still answer my question who should have been playing, since it is so political in Rye with starters. Also Rye played against other spread teams this year and did fine Ossining ran a spread at times, Roosevelt did, Sleepy Hollow did. Iona Prep did at camp. To say they weren’t prepared your crazy. Rye lost on the last play, it had nothing to do with leadership, you guys are incredible. You know nothing about football. If Josh Grahm #35 was taller he would be going Division One.. thats the type of player Rye was dealing with. Again tell me who should be playing
The spread offense that Pough. ran. spreads you out so you can run the ball. 1 TD pass the other night. #4 was not Joe Montana. 3 pass interference calls one on 4th and 10 that was bull. Otherwise #35 had one long TD run and short one.
scottinrye,
Why so harsh? Why so upset? What will that do for you now?.....absolutely nothing. Keep making excuses..it wont bring you back to Friday night. Be a man and deal with it. Thats life…it goes on. Congrats to PK and Roosevelt!
“Graham was penalized for leaving the line too soon three times. But, I can tell you with my own eyes that he didn’t a whole lot more and got away with it.”
Kevin, this is the statement that bothers me the most. Every coach and fan feels that his/her team got screwed after a tough loss and you have always spoken out against that line of thought. How can you now promote this idea?
Are you saying that Rye got no calls over the last years? Was every call other than those you question correct?
You are supposed to be unbiased, I have always had your back, but it doesn’t seem that you are being objective here.
Me, thinks Eagle/Garnet’s hiding his/her old Eagle jersey/cheerleader uniform under the Garnet & Black of RHS.
Remember if DiCarlo’s call on that non punt, they would still be calling for his
Kids have said for years “you screw up once”, Dino remembers it like an elephant and your done. No game for Rye?
Garnets 94…not even going to dignify your tirade with an answer…and yes I do know football..
do you?
Former Eagle.. no tirade, just a question You should have been in. You call the coaches out then, explain who should have done a better job. Can you answer it?
Sorry Who? should have been in the game. We can go back and forth all night.. However the team lost .. nothing we can do about. I am done.
nothing else to say but congrats to POK, good luck the rest of the way. a team that can easily run the table with a great coach and amazing talent amongst the team. Rye it was an awsome run. wish you the best next season, ium sure eck and company will come back even hungier next year. with even more to prove.
John Nugent,
In your comment above you say you’re “not knocking Cole McCormack”. If that’s not “knocking” I’d hate to be on the receiving end if you REALLY WERE personally knocking the kid. But hey, thanx for “going easy” on this GREAT kid.
Rocket,
As I rye fan yes, understand your feelings as we’ve been there before. The loss is tough for me and other rye fans but its over and your kids didn’t quit.
Good luck going forward!
For all u people screaming Pok is a AA school please note the Pok is in fact a A school with a poor graduation rate(kids left behind or failing not moving to next grade) that has gone up over the last coupe of yrs, As a matter of fact either the end of this season or next season Pok Basketball is moving back to A were their suppose to be ( now any AA school not named Mount Vern should be happy about that cause they are the second best AA team in section 1 period) Ha scottinrye STOP CRYING ALL READY UR TEAM LOST NEXT TIME PUNT THE BALL PERIOD, if u can ref better then u go ref the games then and what how many people hate U LOL
watch how many people hate u (edit at end)
Garr-nets, nice screen name, maybe you can’t let go of your years at RHS. Not hiding under a jersey/cheer uniform/ just living a double life which should be blue/red not garnet and black (such disgrace comes from the coaches)...and as for the Dino “you screw up once” thing…wow, more proof that he missed the “Great Coaching Lesson” in “great coaching school”...better he should have taken his lessons from Dom Cecere a true gentelman,role model, COACH,and …a class act who had a hand in teaching Fred DiCarlo how to be one…who taught Dino? Don Corleone? most likely…
Go Go Garnets
No we will be there, to honor the Great one…we even spent a small fortune to secure the best tables so that we could all kiss Dinos rings first..he is truly a pure humanitarian who puts his players and communtiy service (HA HAAH HAAAHAAAHHHH ) first, yes he keeps all of the kids best interests at heart and on the forefront..and when someday he conducts a toy drive for needy kids in the Sound Shore Area, we will weep with joy because he will be showing our kids how to be true community servants…maybe He should ask someone who actually gives a ****..... about the community not football…? Sorry Kev, we know how much you Love Dino but dig deeper, do you still love him? Thought so….