The great Neil Kerr of the Syracuse Post-Standard reported this week that the New York State Football Coaches Association is exploring a possible Upstate vs. Downstate All-Star Football Game for next season. Click here to read the story.
As you know, the annual “Governors Bowl” between New York and New Jersey was discontinued after 11 contests this year because New Jersey no longer wanted to alternate sites each year. New Jersey created a new game this summer — New Jersey vs. the Northeast — which included local standouts Rob Lombardo of Somers and Darlos James of Iona Prep.
The new game could potentially be played at the Carrier Dome next June. It would be called the “Empire State Bowl” and new Syracuse University coach Doug Marrone is part of the discussions to get the game off the ground.
Marrone, from what I’m told, is aggressively trying to win back the support of New York State football coaches who were turned away from former Syracuse coach Greg Robinson and into the hands of Rutgers coach Greg Schiano. Apparently, two kids from New Rochelle a few years ago de-committed to Syracuse, instead went to Rutgers and essentially turned the once-laughable program into a contender and made Schiano a very wealthy man. I’ll have to research the names of those alleged players.
Obviously, I love the idea of bringing back an all-star game. If it’s going to be New York only, then it would significantly increase the chances that our local guys can participate. Add in the fact that it could be held at the Carrier Dome, and this is a no-brainer if they can scrape the money together.
Sign me up. I’d be willing to help organize in any way possible.
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Kevin,
Al Paturzo from Wagner HS on Staten Island, and Joe Vito from Roosevelt HS on LI are the main organizers of this event. They are both on the executive board of the NY State Football Coaches Association. Coach Vito has been quoted as saying it will cost $60,000 to play the game. Anything you can do to help with fund raising and get closer to the $60,000 number would help get this game off of the ground. I know there are a ton of bloggers on here well versed in fund raising, and also guys who work on Wall Street and other organizations that donate money to hold events. There are certainly more worthy causes than donating money to play an All-Star game, but if anyone knows of corporations that would like to get involved from a sponsor point of view please contact Kevin, or email Coach Vito at JVito@RooseveltUFSD.COM
I’d love to see an all section tournament LOL. Section 1 would be sure to take the prize ofcourse!!! Just a thought.
I like the Idea Devaney. Would they divide it the same way they devide the state playoffs??
This would obviously have to be post tournament. which side of New York has the most State chips overall?? I know section 1 and section 5 is neck in neck. I also know that the south East has been over represented by section 1 over the years in championship games.
I dunno Devaney, something like this could give syracuse.com much more life again. surely you dont want that!!! LOL
When Syracuse was on top they owned New Jersey as well as Long Island. Robinson forgot about Jersey and tried to recruit at a higher national level. Marone needs to get Jersey back. I beleive the two players that de-commited going to Cuse were Ray Rice and Courtney Green.
I just wish the powers would first set up a playoff system that would include all teams from LI, CHSFL PSAL and Buffalo Catholic league instead of the fragmented playoff system currently in place.
Can you imagine a State final in 2003 between St. Anthony who had a Running back Matt Hahn go to Penn State and a Linemen Alex Flecher go to Stanford plus severla other D1 and 1AA players go against the great New ROchelle team with Rice, Greene, McDermott etc.
I would have loved to see Iona Prep with Mack and Woddson play Orchard Park last year.
IonaPower,
Last year a game between Iona and Orchard Park would have been a great game. Classic battle between Power vs Speed. Did you get a chance to see OP play last year? I have a couple of films on Orchard Park from last year, if you want I can make copies and if you stop by Champion Camp next week I’ll give them to you.
We should have BIG JOE raise the money. He did it for Harrison, now he can do it for the state. We should also have IonaPower and 10960 as sideline reporters so they can debate who is playing better, the publics or the privates. And FrancoCuts in the booth providing his unique analysis with Kevin providing the play by play.
Keith Fagan-
Thanks for the offer- I will be spending the next 2 weeks down in Florida- At least now I have a Blackberry to stay on top of the action-
I think Iona Prep is making a huge mistake not attending the Champions Camp- They need to be physically ready to even just compete with Bergen Catholic.
On another note I see that your former coworker Edwin Gonzalez from All Hollows moved to Bishop Loughlin which is a premier job in the CHSAA AA basketball division
3 Yards and a cloud of Dust
I would only be willing to work the sidelines with Erin Andrews from ESPN.LOL
Of course Marone and Syracuse want NY & NJ back. It’s their region. The cuse made a major mistake again when it passed on Turner Gill. He has already established recruitment in NY & NJ. They will someday regret it. However I think Marone will be better then what they had. I wish him well. What was wrong with Pasqualini and DeLeone?
Hey Donald of course Kevin new who the two players were who decommited you must be really stupid
Idiot,
Thank you for your well thought out comment. Now don’t forget to make your bed, walk the dog, cut the grass. Make sure your on time for summer school tomorow. Your carrer in collecting cans out of the neighbors recycleing bins is counting on it.
SU will never dominate NJ again. The state of NY they will but not the city. That will be up for grabs. Rutgers now has a football program and finally is a college football state. It took 200 years to do so. PA should be the state SU should look more into. Marone also has to watch what he says to coaches. The rumor around is he’s pissing off some HS coaches. Only time will tell
donald you are really a loser who knows nothing about highschool football
PROPS 2 DA “New York State Football Coaches Association”
SWREW JERSEY who to they think they are!they must be in a Cloud of Dust because New Jersey no longer wanted to alternate sites!There All star selection of players aren’t legit anyway how dose DB a Nationally rank team hardly have any of there player selected to the jersey squad
I think its a great idea for NY But the down state squad has to include players from the city and Cath. schools,also the games need to be moved up to Feb so Sr players have a last chance to be recruited I also feel that every game that has a ref’s there should be a statistician so kids can have there stats officially kept not left up to coaches who tell their players who need stats why are you being so selfish its a team sport!!!!
p.s. Sound familar Scrapie
Syracuse is the new Rutgers.
HaHaHa,
Oh no,, I know nothing about High School Football. What a loser I must be.. I’m shamed. How can I go on in life.
Can someone explain Champions Camp to me? Section 1 practices can’t start until 8/21. How is attendance at an off-season camp mandatory. Some people go away or work during the summer. How can missing a camp that probably borders on being a violation (presence of a coach) be an issue?
Franco Cuts:
You gotta let it go between your son and the South coaching staff. It is over and done with. Your son has moved on to bigger and hopefully better. I just hope you never go to his restaurant, he might poison your food. And where would this blog be without you. I have to admit, myself and a host of others enjoy your posts once we can decipher them.
Great idea if they have this ill be there. Go down state!
You are probaly a father who is like 60 years old knows nothing about footballl. You proably had a son who was a mediocre player in highschool
Donalds a Loser,
Son,, I told you no blogging untill after summer school. And how many times have I told you to get them cans out of the recycling bins. See ya when I get home.
Dad
Whats amazing is that the likes of UConn and Buffalo land the first two prize recruits of the section 1 season in Frank from Po town and OT/DT Zack Jones of RC Ketcham…the 6’6” 320 Jones has verbally committed to Buffalo after a full court press from Head Coach Turner Gill and the defending MAC champs.. and Frank is highly regarded by Randy Edsall with a high upside….How the hell does that happen in the Syracuse Pasqualoni era…it doesnt…Coach Marrone better hope he can rekindle some old Westchester relationships…Cuse had George Duffy Rooks, Harold Gayden, Kelvin Smith and Keith Bulluck back in the day…Frank had regional offers Im told as did Jones…(Syracuse, Temple, UConn, Rutgers)but both are buttoned up and can concentrate on just playing..too bad Kevin doesnt include Dutchess in his Super 11 as youd have Kyle Taylor of JJEF, Frank and Jones in there…there arent any linebackers in Franks and Taylors stratosphere and Jones is way ahead of Degree of O Town and not as far from Acqua (MSM) as people would think…that being said..is there a chance Frank and Jones can play their way to a nationally acclaimed program..probably not ….but the defending MAC champs and a Big East power aint bad…congrats to them and their families and let the games begin
Sounds like a great idea, but the CARRIER dome can get very very hot in June and July.
Remember the CARRIER dome does not have Air Conditioning!!!
Who’da thunk it?
Have the game at west point.
http://highschoolsports.nola.com/news/article/-4005827958772591927/new-york-offensive-tackle-sean-donnelly-florida-linebacker-kerchal-byrd-jr-commit-to-tulane-football/
Sean Donnelly, formerly of Pelham Memorial High School, now of trinity Pawling, committed to Tulane on a full football scholarship. Congrats to him.
how would a player get picked to play in this game
i wouldnt say he’s” way ahead of Degree of o-town
jones stats
http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/-Ezt6lj6c0yLxHOKnXO2Tw/ketcham-indians/football-fall-08/stats.htm
Degree’s stats
http://www.maxpreps.com/local/team/stats.aspx?schoolid=9ef1ca61-297a-484a-8ca1-4281fef7f081&ssid=2f36027d-d6f6-4509-aba9-adad5cc85b5e
you judge
Stats dont tell the tale,
I may have misspoke…the Jones kid is signed as an OT as I understand and didnt play defense last year for RCK that I saw in 2 games..he is a polished OT though at 6’6” 320 and adept as a pass blocker on the edge and as a trapping tackle in the wing t and Degree is a more raw athlete who likely will play defense and gets by largely on brute force and competitive mismatches and of course athletic ability as a very large kid..the kid Acqua from MSM is a beast defensively but playing OT in college is a very athletic position, particularly at LT and requires a more refined kid…Im sure Degree from the 1 game I saw of him is tough to handle and a great straight ahead rusher and defender as is Acqua..Aqcua will wind up at a higher level than Jones because hes a better athlete in seeing the 2.. but Id be surprised if Degree is higher than a MAC kid or some type of mid major if that..in any event they should all go to school for free and that is most important…I hope I clarified myself.Hopefully we’ll see a few more Sec 1 kids join the list..maybe some from POK..lets hope so
ive seen degree play but not the jones kid though. but i hope the best for both in the future.
Crazy,
As long as Jones and Degree have the grades they will play at the next level. No grades…. No play. First thing college coaches ask about are the grades.
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