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How do you lose to Scarsdale one day and beat Mount Vernon the next? Well, if you know anything about this New Rochelle team, you know that just about anything is possible.
What an incredible game today at New Rochelle. The Huguenots outplayed the three-time Class AA champs, winning 82-75 one day after losing at Scarsdale.
Most of you have already detailed how New Rochelle pulled this off: gutty defense, an electric Antoine Mason, clutch shooting from P.J. Torres, good interior play from Stanley Laurent, and New Rochelle’s ability to handle the press and outhustle the Knights.
This game will rank among one of the best season, right up there with Peekskill-Iona Prep. Today’s game had so much intensity and drama, and the fact we had two bitter rivals on the same court definitely added it.
What happens next? Is Mount Vernon still the clear favorite to win Class AA? Is New Rochelle too much of a Jekyll and Hyde team to really compete for a title? I think New Rochelle assistant coach Anthony Nicodemo said it best after the game:
“We changed the complexion of Class AA by losing yesterday — and then we changes the complexion all over again by beating Mount Vernon.”
It’s true. There’s so much uncertainty right now, not just in Class AA, but pretty much everywhere. And it’s what made this season so great.
Mount Vernon, just so you know, is still in line for a No. 1 seed in Class AA. That’s because North Rockland was upset today by Lincoln. Here are some other games from today:
Iona Prep 76, St. John’s Prep 44
Saddle River Day 36, Green Meadow Waldorf 34
Clarkstown South 59, Ramapo 44
Spring Valley 70, Harrison 54
Croton-Harmon 40, Pleasantville 39
Pearl River 78, Ardsley 63
Pelham 48, North Salem 25
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What time is the Iona Prep – Bishop Ford game on Sunday? (Maxpreps says 1pm, Ford’s website says noon, and Iona Preps website has the wrong date!!)
A game like this only makes an annual contest among the best teams in Westchester more intriguing. New Rochelle will always play Mount Vernon and White Plains home and away each year. But how about a tournament of the top 8 teams in the county each year.
Tonight’s game and the Peekskill/Iona game were the two best games all season. A tournament of the best could give us several more great games each year.
The New Power Rankings are:
1 Peekskill
2 Iona Prep
3 New Rochelle
4 Mount Vernon
5 Poughkeepsie/Stepinac
Congrats to New Rochelle. It shows how much focused intensity matters. They lost yesterday because the other team had more and won today because they brought it.
By the way Scarsdale won a great game at Greely tonight 64-63 I believe. They spotted Greely a 15-0 lead and came back to nearly tie it by halftime. Scarsdale was up by seven with 3 minutes to go and Greely nearly came back to win.
The Scarsdale coach used a long interesting rotation and mixed things up well. Greely has to be the best foul shooting team in section 1. They literally made about 22 straight foul shots.
Set Shot
Ford-Iona Prep at Iona 12:00 pm
New Power rankings:
1. Peekskill
2. Iona Prep
3. New Ro
4. MV
5. Stepinac
Pop quiz
Who invented basketball:
a. Mount Vernon
b. John Wooden
c. Dr. James Naismith
d. Howie Green
e. None of the above
For whoever is interested,
Stepinac won by 22 tonight at Cardinal Hayes. Stepinac played great at home against Hayes a few weeks ago, but I expected a much closer game at Hayes tonight. Cardinal Hayes isn’t an easy place to play. Stepinac is quietly having a great year. 4-1 in the A North division so far is way beyond expectations.
Answer to Mike, “who invented basketball”
That’s an easy answer…Mt. Vernon
check that, make it Stepinac by 17 over Hayes
A nice win for the young Stepinac Crusaders. The CHSAA A North is a tough division and road wins are tough to earn.
Tonight, New Ro could have beaten almost all top AA and A teams in NYS; those guys were in the zone.
[...] more, you can read Journal-News writer, Kevin Devaney’s blog about Friday’s game or you can watch the game again on the Journal-News Web [...]
Barack – MV “thinks” it invented basketball.
Mike if you are not a beleiver in the common opponent theory(which you said you werent in anothe thread) than how are you coming about with those power rankings?
Are you using just wins and losses within the section and CHSAA? If yes, then why isn’t Scarsdale ranked higher than New Ro?
Are you considering strength of schedule? If yes, then wy isnt Iona P or MV a top of the list.
Next Friday when MV beats New Ro at home, are they back on top?
New Ro outplayed MV tonight. Scardsale outplayed New Ro the other night. Things happen in HS basketball. For MV to be considered 4th after a rivaly game loss seems a little harsh. Maybe I am blinded by MV’s history, but I just can’t see this effecting their overall goal of Sect 1, state and fed champs…
I am not a MV fan, just a HS bball fan, so I am just trying to understand why they are essentially getting mocked.
lost in the MV-New Ro game will be the story of the Croton/P-Ville game…
P-Ville jumped out to a 7-0 lead… tied 8-8 after 1Q. Score was 16-10 croton at the half. Croton took a lead by as many as 8 in the 2nd half and lead by 5 heading into 4Q. P-Ville completely took over and went up by 3 with a minute remaining. Judge hit a forced jumper cutting the lead to 1. Croton forced a P-Ville turnover with 30?? ish seconds left. Sileck was unable to hit a jump hook from about 7 feet.. came up short off the front rim. Croton fouls with like 10 seconds left. P-Ville is shooting 1 and 1. Shot jumps around the rim and does not drop, Bobby Dusconi (Croton) gets the board. (5-6 seconds left) Dusconi tries to chuck an outlet to Sileck who was waiting at half court. P-Ville bats the ball down and it looks like hte game might end. Dusconi chases it down and again tries to throw it to Sileck. This time SIleck is able to get it with 1ish second left and throws it up at the backboard. Shot isn’t close, but he’s shoved in the back by the Pleasantville player. AkA he gets fouled with 0 time left on the clock. SIleck’s got 2 free throws with 0 seconds left. P ville calls a timeout to try to ice him. Sileck steps up and drills both calmly to give Croton the 1 point win.
Hope that helps kevin
please….mt vernon would spank iona prep….newro is iNCONSISTENT but when they are on they are the second best team in the section…the preseason hype wasnt for nothing they deserved it….
1.MV
2.NEWRO
3.PEEK
4.IONA
5.PK
How can any body that knows basketball say MV would spank Iona? That is a not only a ridiculously false statement but a moronic one as well!!
New Rochelle beats Mount Vernon by 6. Iona beats New Rochelle by 38. Peekskill beats Iona in overtime by 4.
Not very difficult to rank the top teams at this point.
lincoln is a sleeper, i think they can compete with anybody
if mv didnt put their scrubs in at the end of the game, and played competitvely for four quarters(pressing, fast breaking, etc) mv would kill iona. dont kidd yourself hoopla mv is on another level than iona
MIKE:
HOWIE GREEN INVENTED BASKETBALL.
SO MVERNON LOSES TO NEW RO AND THEY DROP TO #4??? TAKE IT EASY THEY ARE STILL #1 IN THE COUNTY. I THINK WE STILL NEED TO KEEP IN PERSPECTIVE THE SCHEDULE THEY PLAY. IF IONA / PEEKSKILL / NEW RO PLAYED THE SAME SCHEDULE MVERNON DID THUS FAR…THEY WOULD EAH PROBABLY HAVE 5 – 6 MORE LOSSES.
NOTHING CHANGES:
1 MVERNON
2 PEEKSKILL
3 IONA
4 NEW RO
5 STEPINAC
Why is it that no team in lower New York State wants to claim the title of best team around? Not only did mount vernon drop to New Ro today but Rice suffered its first local loss to St. Raymonds, the team Mt. Vernon dismantled last weekend.
As for local rankings, If you had to bet on one team to win a game right now most would probably still pick MV #1. However I feel that teams should be punished for slipping up, and teams should be rewarded for taking care of business. Thus being the only undefeated team in the area Peekskill should be on top of the rankings. They have passed each test that has come infront of them and should be rewarded. Now if they go and lose to NFA tomorrow evening (which they very well could do), then debate for the top spot gets even more confusing
LEFTY:
POINTS WELL TAKEN BUT PEEKSKILLS SCHEDULE IS A JOKE COMPARED TO MVERNON. YOU CAN’T ALSO PENALIZE A TEAM (MVERNON) FOR PLAYING A SCHEDULE NOT JUST THIS YEAR BUT EVERY YEAR THAT IS SO MUCH TOUGHER THEN PEEKSKILL / IONA’S / STEPINAC’S / NEW RO’S – COME ON NOW!
Lefty,
You are right… If Peek loses we have the 6 degrees of separation theory, LoL… NFA-Pok-Peek-Iona-New Ro-MV weird right
I agree MV’s schedule is alot harder which is why they were still ranked number one when they had 2 losses!
But after a local loss, things change.
When comparing “local” records, Mount Vernon has 1 loss while Peekskill has 0, and both have faced a top 4 team. Peekskill passed their test by getting past Iona, and MV bowed to New Ro. So for now in the local rankings, Peekskill should be on top.
newrochelle fans are crazy and help them win that game…....
Good posts above and the debate makes snese because we are tkaing about polls.
The only way to really determine the top 5 is for the teams to play each other once a year.
Yeh
I guess the 38 point spanking that Iona gave to New Rochelle was a scrimmage- Iona is not getting spanked by anyone!
HRs – OK let’s read your “common opponent theory” flashcards and agree that Scarsdale is now #1 – get real!
This week, the new rankings are:
1. Peekskill
2. Iona Prep
3. New Ro
4. MV
5. Stepinac
If New Ro and Iona Prep win next week, the poll stays the same. If MV and Stepinac win, the poll could be:
1. Peekskill
2. MV
3. Stepinac
4. Iona Prep
5. New Ro
You gotta love the “OVERRATED” chants throughout the game by NR fans, especially when Sherrod Wright had the ball. MV always has trouble playing in the hostile NR gym, even last year they only won by 5 points. Also nice to see Ray Rice back in the house.
The difference between MV and Iona is : If any of Iona’s big four score 18 points in a game against a good team Iona is ok and will win the game. Yesterday, Sherrod scored 18 a against a good team and they lost! Mv is way too reliant on sherrod.
The answer is Howie Green. He has been around a lot longer than A,B and C. I hear he still has the peach baskets.
NEW RO! GOT LUCKY THIS TIME BUT NOT THE NEXT TIME NUMBER 44 PLAYED THE BEST GAME OF HIS LIFE AND HE WILL NEVER PLAY THE GREAT AGAIN WE WILL BE READY NEXT TIME
NEW RO MISS MORE LAY UP THAN THEY DID JUMP SHOTS NOW TELL ME THATS NOT LUCK!!
ALOT OF LUCK ALL DAY YOU WILL NOT PLAY LIKE THAT AGAIN THIS SEASON
AMAZING ON ALL THE ANALYSIS AFTER ONE GAME. MVERNON IS STILL THE BEST TEAM IN THE COUNTY – THAT’S IT.
LEFTY I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM BUT PEEKSKILL IS IN THE A AND MVERNON IS IN THE AA. AND AGAIN NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM PEEKSKILL B/C THEY ARE SOLID – BUT THEIR SCHEDULE IS A JOKE COMPARED TO MVERNON.
MVERNON WILL WIN SECTION 1 AND PROBABLY END UP IN THE FEDERATIONS – DON’T COUNT THEM OUT BASED ON 1 GAME LET’S SETTLE DOWN NOW.
FYI
THANK YOU AND I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU
STILL THE BIG FISH!
St rays beat rice yesterday too at Gauchos gym
yesterday was the day for upsets I guess
If anyone wants to go tonight, Rice plays Thomas Jefferson at Gauchos Gym for the Fred Neal Classic at 7PM. Rice should be ready to go after last nights loss
Mike…the Scarsdale ranking would actually makes sense in your weak poll.Scarsdale beat New Ro, thats a quality win..New Ro beat MV thats their quality win. Peekskill beats Iona…they are ranked one. You aren’t factoring in anything else..because if you were MV still stays number one, not 4th!!
I 100% disagree with the common opponent theory. This isn’t the BCS. This is HS basketball. Your commment about everyone playing each other makes sense. I would love to see it happen
I agree with Lefty’s reasoning..but where you lose me is putting New Ro 3rd.. It was a great win, but it was an upset. If you mock Scarsdale, which you did..then you can’t lose to them and be in the the top 3.
In all honesty I don’t beleive Scarsdale is a top team at all..but I do think MV is excellent. MV slipped up. Just like you can say Rice slipped up. If Iona loses to Ford,is that viewed as a slip up and in your ranking do they drop to 4th on a tough league loss?
The fact that we are debating this is great. But good teams lose in the regular season. Great teams win when everything is on the line! MV will win when it matters. I hope Iona and Peeskill do it as well. Man would that be great for our area!
Hrs – I agee: MV is excellent and they will rebound quickly with a win over NR next week. But for now, the Knights drop to 4th and have a week to get back to #1.
I also agree with the fact that there is great BB in our area, including MV, NR, Peekskill, Iona, Stepinac, etc.
iona is playing the best b.b. in this area and they ar shooting from the floor better than any other team in this area i think they would beat this m.v. team even with nine seniors they still play like a bunch of soph and jr there was no sr. leadership out there yesterday for m.v.!
COACH C. COMMENT ON SENIOR LEADERSHIP!!
can’t win without it!!
can’t coach without it!!
can’t be without it!!
and last but not least no state/fed chip without it!!
WE SHOULD PUT TOGETHER A ALLSTAR TEAM WITH PK/NR/IONA/MV/STEP AND PLAY RICE/ST.RAY’S/BOY&GIRL/LINCOLN/BISHOP
Lance, Durand, Jaycaughn Pinkston, Russ Smith, James Stukes, Trevon Hamlet, Tyreak Johnson, Mike Taylor, James Padgett, Darwin Ellis, Chaz, Sean Johnson, Rasheem King….
im sorry, no all star team from westchester is coming close to that
Sherrod, Ralph, Brickhouse, Odayne?, Jabari, Pope, Bronner, i dont even know.
i would take the NYC 2nd team against the westchester first team
the game against croton was just terrible so many terrible calls and the foul with zero seconds left was a bunch of crap
Protege please take it easy.. One loss and you are all over the blogs mocking MV and saying Iona is the best. Your ficitious All Star match up is not only unrealistic, its silly. If you take Westchesters team this year of
Wright/Hinds
Mason
Baltimore
Watts/Brickhouse
The whole Iona team
Whitaker
It doesn’t even compare to whats out there in terms of talent on the PSAL/CHSAA AA side.
These 4 kids alone would win the game.
Lance Stepheson
Durand Scott
Pinkston
Mike Taylor
FYI, I understand that MV should still be ontop of Peekskill cause of their scheduele but this makes Peekskill a close second. MOunt Vernon never plays Peekskill and in a lohud article last year Cimino said nothing good could come for the Mount Vernon team by playing a lower division team. but thats bull. I believe that to be the best one has to beat the best and cimino isn’t letting Peekskill have a shot to take the #1 spot. Still for power rankings MV is 1 cause they are out of everyones league, but if they lose another section 1 game and Peekskill is undefeated then Peekskill is number 1.
The local rankings today should be:
1 Peekskill
2 Iona Prep
3 New Rochelle
4 Mount Vernon.
You do not have to agree with or like these rankings , but it is what it is. Peekskill and Iona will have to lose a game to be dislodged from the #1 or #2 spot. If either lose, they would drop to no better than 4th place. Mount Vernon can take 3rd back next week with a win in a rematch with New Rochelle. New Rochelle and Mount Vernon will need Peekskill and Iona to lose at this point in order to get the number #1 ranking.
Pollsters do not excuse “an off game” when analysing rankings. Wins and losses matter most because it evidences consistency.
HRS AND BOSS
I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT GAME I THINK THAT HINDS/ WRIGHT/BRICKHOUSE/VOEKEL/BALTIMORE/ WATTS/ POPE/CARLISOMO/BRONNER
I THINK THAT STARTING 5 HAS A HIGH B.B. I.Q. AND I DNT THINK IT WILL BE A BLOW OUT
PG BRICKOUSE
SG HINDS/POPE
F WRIGHT
F WATTS
C VOEKEL
shut your mouths you guys all of sudden think your good just because stole some players from town by promising them a free scholarship example voelkel and bronner. You guys are a bunch of sorry losers and if iona and mountvernon played mount vernon would win by 20. iona has no heart
Remember… Peekskill goes up to Pok Monday I think… That won’t be an easy win…
Anyone who says MV would blow out Iona clearly hasn’t seen Iona play. MV is very tough. So is Iona. MV proved yesterday by losing to NR that anybody can lose to a good team on a bad day.
The rankings discussion is very interesting. I wouldn’t penalize MV for losing to out of state powerhouses of course, but when they lose to a local opponent you have to reflect that (at least temporarily) in the rankings. I think the rankings going into this week should be:
1 – Peekskill
2 – Mt Vernon
3 – Iona
4 – New Rochelle
5 – Stepinac
6 – Poughkeepsie
Cimmino has said publicly he won’t play Peekskill because it has no benefit to his program. Thats a reasonable position for him, but when MV loses to a local team (and hasn’t yet beat any) and Peekskill is undefeated with big wins over top local teams (Peskskill is 3-0 against the top 6) then I think you have to (at least temporarily) rank Peekskill ahead of Mt Vernon. They’ve earned it on the court. You can’t reward Mt Vernon for not playing Peekskill by keeping them at #1 even when they lose.
I said early yesterday I thought NR would bounce back strong against MV after their poor showing against Scarsdale, but I didn’t expect them to win. MV will probably come out with a very convincing win next Friday and may sail through the Sectional Playoffs. At least for now, I think you have to keep Peekskill at #1. When MV has some impressive wins under their belts and Peekskill plays some less than impressive games, then maybe you can consider moving MV back up to #1.
For all the Iona fans – had Iona beaten Peekskill I think they would definitely have been #1 now. I’d give MV the slight edge over Iona in the rankings due to the fact that MV has some great non-league wins and they each have one local loss. If Iona wins tomorrow in convincing fashion and runs the table, they’ll have a chance to prove they are ahead of both Peekskill and MV by the end of the year.
Zoby “pollsters” also include many other things besides local wins and losses. Strentgh of schedule, quality wins are a few examples..Even if it is local. If this was included in your poll the order changes ..and in terms of consistency.. New Ro really exemplifies consistency??? They just lost to Scarsdale!
Protege.. BB IQ normally isnt eveident in an all star game. It is pretty much all about individual play. It would be a blow out.
HR’s
People just are not seeing what the real goal for Iona is and that is the CHSAA A Championship and then a run at the Federation. All this speculation about who is number 1 between Peekskill-MV or Iona-MV is hopeless because the teams will not meet. Iona has enough to think about with Bishop Ford tomorrow.
Also like I stated earlier it is only a regular season loss for MV and in the long run they could still make a run at the Federation because they certainly proved last week by beating St. Rays and Jefferson that they have the players. I think it would be great if Iona and MV are in Glen Falls for th Federation. I am sure both teams would be cheering each for each other.
Great Game tonight with Rice-Jefferson at the Gaucho Gym- For any basketball fan who dares to venture out of suburbia this a very good venue.
St. Raymonds beating Rice was an upset and it shows how anything can happen in the CHSAA AA. Also Loughlin lost to CTK last night. Loughlin’s poor guard play has hurt them recently. Also St. Dominics beating Cardozo was a very good win for the Long Island Catholic league.
You are 100% with your post. In reality if you want to look ahead you can with Iona and Peekskill. They already played and if all goes well, they will play again! MV is doing its own thing. No one really cares about “king” of Westchester except the bloggers.
You are so right about the CHSAA AA it is so unpredictable. Still got to favor Rice, but anything can and will happen. Trying to get over to that game tonight. It is going to be a great one..
Anyone who thinks a team from Westchester is crazy. Lance, Durand, Jayvaughn, Mike Taylor and James Padgett are probably the best 5 players in the city. I would take the next 5 of Russ Smith, Darwin Ellis, Joel Wright, James Stukes, Shane Southwell, and Trevon Hamlet over any 5 from westchester. Lets be real here. Westchester has good absketball, but the city is on another level
Whatever, give me MV Clark at center, POK brandon James at PF, Sherrod at SF and Watts , brickhouse at point or jabari, and give me 5 players from any other school thats good to fill the roster . You guys forget you cant just throw a team of allstars together, yeah NYC team would be a dream team but the section 1 kids would be the radeem team cause chemistry between those players would be alot better then the NYC team, and by the way the best team in New york is Jamesville-Dewtt they’ll beat anybody right now , every team u guys are talking about i ve seen play and Jamesville is a better then all of them including my Peekskill team
boss,
How soon you forget that the Westchester team won the Wheelchair Classic last year. Westchester vs. all of NYC isn’t a fair comparison numbers-wise. Westchester against any of the individual boroughs is. Westhcester has about 1m residents. Manhattan is about the same. Brooklyn has 3m. Queens and the Bronx about 2m. All-Star games are hard to judge because you never know how teams will gel in that type of setting. But in terms of pure talent, last year Westchester could definitely match up with any of the boroughs. This year, Westchester is still tough. I’d take a team of the top 12 Westchester players (Sherrod Wright, Brickhouse, Watts, Hinds, Vaughn Allen, Brian Voelkel, David Samuels, Antoine Mason, Jordan Bronner, Carissimo, Bronner, Conroy Baltimore) against any borough. Brooklyn would be tough to beat this year with Stephenson, the 3 from Jefferson, Taylor and Samuel from Boys & Girls, Rasheem King from Xaverian, Chazz Williams from Bishop Ford, Pinkston from Loughlin, Hamlett, Padgett. Brooklyn would be the favorite, but against Queens or the Bronx, it could be a close game.
Hoop fan….Wasn’t it you who was complaining that New Rochelle was ranked too high by Kevin? No quality wins you said to deserve the state and local ranking they received.
Now NewRo beats MV head-to-head and you still rank MV ahead of them?
Please don’t act like you called this upset yesterday with the “bounce back? comment after lobbying for Stepinac and Mount to be ahaed of New Ro in the power rankings.
The fact that you can’t bring yourself to rank New Ro ahead of MV today says it all about where you are coming from.
Hoops Fan,
I think the wheelchair classic last year cannot be brought up this year. Westchester was more more talented last year. I don’t remember everyone from the westchester team, but you had kevin jones who gets considerable playing time for west virginia, Mookie jones who was going to syracuse, and simeon marsalis who is now committed to vermont and is playing for one of the top prep schools in the country. Besides Sherrod im not sure of anyone who is going to a school of those calibers as of yet in westchester right now
Suffern coach was fired after game yesterday vs. Clarkstown North for letting his team get out of control
Pk 67- Middletown 45
Statesman, the Section 1 site has Peekskill @ Poughkeepsie scheduled for Monday, February 9th. It will be PK’s last regular season game; looks like we’ll have another packed house…
NewRoBBall,
I didn’t try to say that I predicted the upset. Actually, I said clearly that I didn’t expect an upset. What I did say is I thought NR would play well coming off the terrible day at Scarsdale.
As far as ranking MV ahead of NR, have you never seen a poll in any sport before? Boston College (unranked) upset UNC (#1) last month that doesn’t mean Boston College should be ranked ahead of UNC. Rankings are about a complete body of work, not one game. If rankings were a one game snapshot, NR would’ve been unranked after losing to Scarsdale, but I didn’t see that either.
I’ve been saying all month that I thought Kevin was ranking NR at #4 based on how he thought they could play rather than what they were actually proving on the court. I don’t think in retrospect I was wrong. Prior to Friday, New Ro didn’t do anything special on the court this year. Friday was special. Being ranked in the top 4 is nothing to complain about. The best part of it for New Rochelle is they get to prove in only 6 days that this was not a fluke. Obviously, if NR beats MV this coming Friday they will clearly deserve #3.
peekskill trails nfa 41-29 at half.. newburgh is simply outhustling peekskill and are getting too many easy shots inside. the lead got as big as 18 in the 2nd quarter but peekskill made a mini run at the end right before half. watts sat most of the 2nd q with 3 fouls. peekskill is playing poor defense and if they dont sharpen up they will lose
Hoops your borough break down is very logical but that was not the comment/proposal put out there. I also tend to disagree with you when you talk about say the BX… Between JFK, St Rays, Gompers etc there are some high quality kids..we just don’t know too much about them.. Then again who cares because it will never happen. Westchester as a whole bring a lot to the table, no need to start comparing to NYC.
I also agree with 10801..last years Westchester team was special.. again the comment was about this year. So its a moot point.
lefty
I was very impressed with Newburgh when i watched them at the White Plains Tournament against Iona- They will be a tough out for any Section Class AA team that they face in the State Playoffs.
Hoops Fan-
Very Nice win by Stepinac at Cardinal Hayes. It looks like they have the number 2 spot in the north locked up. I guess you will root for Iona Next Tuesday Against Mount to assure that number 2 spot.
10801
Your zipcode brings back a lot of memomories for me as I spent my childhood living off of Union Avenue.
never count peekskill out! they came out of the half with a fire underneath them and now hold a 51-49 lead.. this game might come down to the last possession
This is not college basketabll, but if it were , have you ever seen a college poll where the #4 team knocked off the #1 team? Do you think the pollsters would say, “let me see you do that again before we change the rankings?, as you suggest. #4 goes ahead of the former #1 ABSOLUTELY in the next poll, EVERYTIME.
You shouldn’t bring out your internalised opinions of who you think is better, when ranking teams. What you call a fluke, is another team’s arrival. The final score tells it all.
Despite what you believe about all things apart from verifiable facts, there are only 3 games that need to be looked at to determine TODAY’s rankings on this blog. Because these are verifiable facts:
MV’s loss to New Rochelle by 6
New Rochelle’s loss to Iona by 38
Iona’s loss to Peekskill by 4 in overtime
Peekskill, Iona, New Rochelle, Mount Vernon. As of today, subject to change as the season moves forward.
So New Ro.. where is Scarsdale on you poll? This really all is meaningless because MV is going to blow out New Ro next week and New Ro will be back with the rest of the pack. It was a great win, but your team is inconsistent and lost to SCARSDALE. SO be quiet and enjoy your self proclaimed 3 ranking.. by next week I expect you to come back on after they get smoked with some excuse.
No excuses for MV they lost in a REGULAR SEASON rivalry game. But come big time games…MV will win and New Ro will be watching them
peekskill wins 71-70
How come Scarsdale fans didnt come out talking smack after they beat the almighty New Ro?? My guess is because they didn’t view it as a big upset..why? because New Ro isnt anything more than a step child to MV. Keep living on the 2004 team!!!! New Ro lost by 38 to Iona P, will lose by 25+ to MV next week and would lose to Peekskill by say 20+.. So essentially they would go 3-1 against top teams.. or 3-2 I have to count the powerhouse Scarsdale!!!!!
Yes MV lost but they also beat St. Rays, Jefferson and played well against other national powers.. so this loss is viewed as a true upset, nothing else. MV will easily win section and prob win the state… New Ro on the other hand may lose to TZ
to think voelkel and bronner would be on pleasantville. imagine that class b monster
Take it Easy,
You are less intelligent then I first thought. I see now that you are a complete idiot.
Did you see the MV/ St Raymonds game? Or the MV/ Jefferson game? I did, and it was almost like who wanted to lose the game the most. Missed lay ups, zero outside shooting, turnovers, sloppy, sloppy play, with long stretches of incompetency from both teams.
Did you see NewRo run MV out of the gym yesterday? That is how the game is supposed to be played.
You will have a whole week to figure out how your team got waxed. It hurts to go from the best team around to the 4th best team around I am sure, but that is HS basketball.
PS- Peekskill won and holds on to 1st. Do you think your team can beat Newburgh?
Yeah cause POK did beat NFA wire to wire win, even thow it got close at the end
New Ro clueless.. I see you have chosen to ignore the fact that your over-rated team lost to Scarsdale. Didn’t that horrible team know as MV play them? Refresh my memory..what was the score?
And yes I saw those games as well. Regardless of how sloppy the games was played MV won against a premier team. I am sorry New Ro would have gotten smoked. Theier schedule is weak and this will be thier only quality win. Fans like you take away from the actual accomplishment of the players. You expect to much. MV is the best team and will prove it in the end. You want to jump around like you don’t belong go ahead. MV coudl care less about your pathetic rankings.. They care about winnig everything.. See New RO needs to care about this one win..because they normally do nothing when it counts.
So be quiet…you are a weak ass homer, with no ground to stand on. You won 1 game in the regular season. You are going to get smoked next week by the same team in the regular season..what matters is playoff time and MV is not losing. History will repeat itself once again. New Ro on the other hand may lose to Scarsdale or Clarkstown South..And if they get past those studs..they willlose to POK, who is much better than them
Stick to Football..that is what New Ro is good at.
take it easy,
i suggest you do that. The fact is new rochelle proved yesterday the level of play they are capable of. This team all year has been extremely up and down. However look what happens when everything comes together. Keep in mind they are kids to. The scarsdale game was the perfect trap game and if your a kid looking forward to mt vernon and you have to play a team you perpetually beat the day before, im sorry it will be very hard to focus on that game.
Iona Power,
Best football area code in the state haha
A trap game in HS??? That is ridiculous. HS athletes only have so many games per year and most may never play an organzied game after. If they take any game lightly it is a joke.
Maybe you are selling Scarsdale short. All of you seem to be shocked that this happened, but yet you say on the other hand New RO is inconsistent. Do inconsistent teams win the chip? MV lost one game and now they are suspect. It is laughable.
In addition, why is this loss not equally as worse as say MV’s loss. Maybe MV was looking past New Ro..so does that make it ok? Maybe this was a trap game?
The bottom line is New Ro played a great RIVALRY game and won. It was a great win. There is no need for you and all the other clowns to hype them up and make them something they are not.
I guess Wake Forest stinks because they lost to unranked Gtech. I think Wake should be put out of the rankings. The fact that they beat UNC and Duke means nothing..right?
This is essentially the same scenario. Ignore what MV has done and live in the now.
If you and New Rodummy want to “live the dream” for a week..then have fun. But that is why MV is MV and New Ro is second best. People like New Rodummy take away from HS athletes because they speak on behalf of them. There is no need to create false expectations. I am not even a MV fan, but seeing people dog them and question their abilites after one loss has me steaming.
take it easy,
Im not living on a dream, im not saying that new rochelle is the best team in this section, and i am not dogging mt vernon in anyway. If you don’t think there are trap games in high school then i severely doubt you played highschool sports. Just 2 seasons ago, new rochelle played roosevelt in the last game of the season. The game meant literally nothing to new rochelle and was extremely sloppy. They won 24 nothing in the end, but if roosevelt had been a little better they would have won that day.
I can tell you first hand, no one on the new rochelle basketball team cares at all about playing scarsdale. Its just not a big game to them. Mt vernon however like you said is a rivalry. If mt vernon cant get up for a game against kids they have been playing since 3rd grade, there is something wrong.
If you actually watched the game yesterday, you would have seen the level new rochelle was playing at. I’m not saying that they can play that way consistently, but if they can, that is good enough to win this section and compete with any team in this state.
First off I did play in HS and I went on to play in college.. That is why I am saying there is no such things as trap games in HS basketball. Who is New Ro to look past a Scarsdale? WHo is New Ro to look past Roosevelt in your example. They should be up for every game and if they are not..then that is a refelction on the coach.
I also watched the game and I do not think for a second they would beat top teams in the state. MV played as bad as New Ro played good. And in reality your assesment has the ability to unfold.. Which you will be proven wrong. They are not beating MV in the section playoffs..in fact they probably wont get to the final.. why..because like you said they are inconsistent and they appear to “look” past teams!
These are high school kids. When was the last time new rochelle lost to scarsdale? Scarsdale is sub 500 this year. You keep putting words in my mouth, i never said it was acceptable or a good thing that they looked past them. But when your expecting an easy game and the other teams comes out balling, all of the sudden you have to pick it up and it isn’t easy.
I’m not predicting anything, I’m not saying anything will happen/ I realize new ro is inconsistent. But i really doubt they are going to overlook any team in the playoffs, and will come out strong. If they play at the level they played at yesterday, no team is going to beat new ro easily not even mt vernon. The only question is if they can consistently be at that level, or will consistently be up and down.
Let’s be real! MV should dropped to 4th in the polls! It is only fair! If they beat New Ro next week then they should move to 3rd if Iona and peekskill do not lose! If MV had lost to a powerhouse outside of Westchester than I would agree they should not lose their top ranking!! But, they lost to New Rochelle who got blown out by Iona. Only fair!!!
lots of good fun on the blog tonight. i am not surprised that mv lost to newro, because i never believed mv was any better than the the other top teams around here that they refuse to play.
being a preseason number one favorite, when you haven’t played the teams you are supposed to be better than will almost always backfire on you. as we have just witnessed.
maybe next year mv will answer the call from peekskill and iona to schedule a game.
if i had to rank today i would say peekskill, iona, newro, mv . that is my honest, albeit iona homer, ranking.
i now need iona to beat bishop ford tomorrow to keep hope alive.
HR’s
I was at the Gaucho Tonight with Rice beating Jefferson by around 13 points- Rice shot the ball very poorly and won it with some great defense- Jefferson had some chances to pull away in the first half but could not sustain their offense.
When Rice turns up the defense they are hard to beat.
So, since New Ro beat MV does that mean they just won the section? Seriously, that game really meant nothing. Both teams are really overrated. 1. Peekskill 2. Iona Prep.
IonaPower,
How did Durand Scott and James Stukes play?
Hoops Fan,
Who cares if Westchester won the wheelchair classic last year. Do you think that players go all out on that game and play as a team, or try to go nut and win MVP? But if you look at it player by player from last year… Kevin jones isnt getting a LOT of playing time at WVU and Mookie played like 1 game this year before he got hurt. Kemba is the 6th man on the best team in the nation, Truck is starting at WVU, a top 25 team, Sylven is one of the top freshmen in the nation, and Erving Walker is getting meaningful minutes at Florida. You can say that an all star team would win but who cares. NYC players are better than the westchester players and thats a fact
Boss
James Stukes did not play well tonight- Was very tentative on the offesive end- He did play good defense like the rest of Rice. Durand Scott played well and had some great passes. Rice has so many athletes and a deep bench- I still do not think Shane Southwell was in the lineup-
Rice as a team did not shoot well and won this game on defense. The game was even through 3 quarters and then Rice turned up the pressure and Jefferson could not handle it. Jefferson did not score even 10 points in the 4th quarter.
Boss
I was very impressed with Joel Wright of Jefferson who is a Junior- Fordham University has got themselves a big time recruit.
I also think James Stukes will end up in the Atlantic 10 or Colonial Athletic.
Iona P.. Thanks for the update. Jefferson hasn’t won any of their big games thus far. They also seem to play sloppy in the spotlight. Makes me wonder if they are going to be able to knock of Lincoln or Boys. How did their big 3 play?
Next year do you think Iona will schedule a game or two against these types of teams? Jefferson and B&G will have stars back. Rice and St. Rays will be top notch .. With Iona’s core coming back it seems like a logical thing to do.
HRs
I know for a fact that Iona has tried to schedule as many difficult games as possible. I have heard that they want to play in the Slam Dunk tournament and could be going to an out of State Tournament-Trust me Iona is working hard to schedule hard non league opponents. I believe with the talent the team has coming back next year they could no longer be looked at as a one year wonder. It should be 3 straight years of winning over 20 games so other teams should not look at playing Iona as a “No Win Situation”.
Jefferson has some talent but they do not play as a team- A lot of the players were jawing with each other and showed frustration to other teammates. A good team that plays hard for 4 quarters will beat Jefferson- The perfect example was MV last week.
Shane’s first game is going to be friday at St. Rays
Iona Prep must take 2 major tests this week: Ford today and Stepinac on Friday. Both games will be real close no matter which team wins.
We are going to see some great basketball over the next 5-6 weeks in Section 1, the CHSAA, NYC, and Glen Falls.
Who will win various championships is anybody’s guess.
frank,
wouldnt sandro c be on pville as well as voelkel and bronner?
that would be the core of ip potentially on pville, too bad pville is horrible now and cant really compete
Frank,
To my understanding, Bronner and Carissimo are from the Sleepy Hollow school district (Tarrytown), not Pleasantville.
Tough Loss For Greeley Against Scarsdale.Greeley is a great Free Throw shooting team. Matt Townsend who is only a Sophomore dominated the inside with 26 points.Also Adam Honig put up 25 for Greeley.In this game Greeleys 2nd leading scorer(who scores A LOT)did not score at all. Greeley has a big problem with sharing the scoring Load. A typical night if Greeley has 70 points would be Townsend with 25.Brophy with 20.Honig with 15. and then their will be like 2 others with 5 points each they really don’t ever have a game where more then 6 people score a point in the game.GUYS REMEMBER THIS NAME MATT TOWNSEND.HE ALREADY THIS YEAR HAS PUT UP A TRIPLE DOUBLE WITH ABOUT 25 POINTS,15 REBOUNDS AND 12 BLOCKS.HE IS AVERAGING OVER 20 AND 10 AND HE IS ONLY A SOPHOMORE.WATCH THIS KID HE IS VERY SPECIAL
Greeley Fan, you are right.
Greeley is a good team. And you are also correct that the big sophmore Matt T. is a very confident and skilled player for such a young guy. In two years if he keeps working on his game he should be one of the better players is section 1. The point guard is also a very good player.
Regarding Scarsdale and New rochelle I just want to give a little credit to Scarsdale. Obviously New Ro has more talent. Scarsdale is a team that lost all but one starter from last year and has only one other player from last years fine team ( that new Ro barely beat twice) that saw any time. So they have struggled. But they have shown good improvement and I give them huge credit for believing in each other and having the balls to compete with and beat a more talented New Ro team.
Greeley is not a very good team they are 8-7 with an easy schedule. Matt Townsend is a beast though.
hoops fan and kenny,
either carlisimo or bronner is in the pocantico school district and would have gone to pleasantville high school. yeah imagine those two and voelkel in class b ha
and connor brown from fordham prep
pg: connor brown
sg: sandro carissimo
sf: jordon bronner
pf: jack bramswig
c: brian voelkel
wow
Who cares where the iona kids are from? I think iona is overrated but i still think it is completely ridiculous how people come on these blogs and talk about schools recruiting and taking players away from public schools. That is what private schools do!!! For people to say that no one can compare public schools vs. private schools is ridiculous. Lincoln has won 2 straight state titles. Their PUBLIC!!!!! No one complains about schools in the city recruiting. That is what catholic and private schools have done, do now, and will continue to do. Stop whining about it. It seems like people play the what if game on this board non stop and we get the fact that Sleepy Hollow would be a good team if kids from Iona went to Sleepy Hollow instead of Iona, but they dont. Thats that
Some student-athletes choose to go to their local public high schools, while others opt for private or Catholic institutions such as Hackley or Stepinac. The reasons include academic reputtaion, abilities and needs, proximity and travel time, costs, the level of competition, and Barrons’ Tiers 1-3 college acceptances.
The Westchester BB players who do enroll at Iona Prep, Stepinac, Mount Saint Michael, and Fordham Prep want to face good competition and be part of the famous CHSAA brand. If they can compete at the next level, players with good grades and solid play can leveage that brand, resulting in genuine looks from NCAA Division I-III coaches and free college educations which can cost between $60K at SUNY Albany (Ralph Watts) to $200,000 at Duke (Elton Brand) for four years of tuition, fees, books, and room and board.
Let’s face the facts: Players such as Jordon Bonner or Sandro Carissimo of Iona Prep would not draw the same level of attention if he played at Sleepy Hollow or Pleasantville, respectively. Also, players such as Jeff Mack and Bonner play football and the CHSAA AA gridiron division is one of the best around.
Yet, it is clear that MV, Peekskill, and Lincoln have had great success for many years, and now, their brands are “school-based” instead of “league-based.”
And yes, some public high schools recruit almost as much as their private and Catholic counterparts. All one has to do is do is move from point A (e.g, one section of Brooklyn) to point B (e.g., another section of Brooklyn) to play for Lincoln – and there is no tution to pay either.
alright boss first off we are not playing the what if game we are just saying and second off Lincoln Hall hasn’t won any state championchips in Glens Falls and they didn’t even make it to the County center last year they lost to B-cliff in the second round so u dont even know what u r talking about
New Panther.. YOU ARE A MORON!!!!! Boss is talking about Lincoln HS from Brooklyn. They have only won 3 Federation championships in a row.
You should feel like a jerk..because you are!
Take it Easy
You have to understand that most people from Westchester never venture out to watch big time NYC basketball so you may need to educate the local folks on Lincoln in Brooklyn….LOL
HAHAHAHA you are so right Iona P.. The fact that the kid thought it was Lincoln Hall is hysterical.
Iona P.. You proably read this, but nice article on the kid from Jefferson that you mentioned. This seems like a steal for Fordham. Another outstanding player mocking St. Johns to go elsewhere!!!!!!
http://www.fiveborosports.com/ssp/news?news_id=1377
HRS,
I saw Wright play twice duing the SNY invitational. He’s a 6’6”-6’7” wiry, very thin, athletic player in the Brooklyn PSAL. He has a long way to go to be able to contribute in the Big East. I think the A-10 is a good fit for him. He scores more of his points for Jefferson in transition, which doesn’t translate in college. In a half court setting he has a lot of work to do to be an impact player in college. I don’t think St Johns offered him a scholarship. In the games against MV and Boys he struggled mightily and scored less than 10 in both games. St Johns did sign Omari Lawrence who would’ve been the 2nd best player in NYC this year had he not transferred. I really don’t have an explanation why St Johns didn’t sign any of the top local players last year in a great year for local basketball, but this year with Lawrence I think they’re on their way to hopefully correcting that.
Hoops thanks for the info. The fact that the kid is 6”7 and athletic is a win, win. He is also probably still growing. With proper strength and conditioning, it sounds like Fordham got a future star. St. Johns has been getting beat for years now.. Omari is a step in the right direction, but unless Lance signs with the Johnnies, they will remain a cellar dweller in the Big East. They also will most likely be looking for a new coach.
Mike said
“Let’s face the facts: Players such as Jordon Bonner or Sandro Carissimo of Iona Prep would not draw the same level of attention if he played at Sleepy Hollow or Pleasantville, respectively.”
This is only partially true. Normally who watches Iona basketball but their loyal fans? The attention Iona basketball is getting this year is also due to the collection of talent they have amassed and the fact that they have been an excellent team the last two years and will be at least into next year. How many other A teams in any league in NY have 4 potential D1 level players? The CHSAA A being weak the last two years does somewhat diminish Iona, but still they are a pleasure to watch. Peekskill Iona was excellent and I hope to see a repeat.
wat,
I respect your opinion but I think you have your facts wrong. You say the CHSAA A league was down the past two years – what information makes you say that? A few weeks ago in a discussion, I listed many of the DI players to come out of the CHSAA A league that are currently playing in college. The players that came out of the CHSAA A league were equal to the players coming out of Section 1 AA – there are only about 12 CHSAA A teams and about 30 Section 1 AA teams, right? Forget about Section 1 class b or class A. Kyle McAlarney (Notre Dame), Melquan Bolding (Duquesne), John Holland (BU), Austin Wallace (Pitt), Tony Taylor (GW), Nick Hendra (American), Alejo Rodriguez (Iona), Stephen Wood (Duquesne), etc, etc. We can do the same this year with players currently playing in the A league (Voelkel, Bronner, Carissimo, Pope-Iona; Baltimore-Stepinac; Joye-LaSalle; Nunez, McAdoo-Hayes; Brooks-McClancy; Aguilar-Mount; the big man from Fordham Prep; Chazz Williams, Murphy-Ford) – thats 13 kids that I’ve read at one point or another are getting DI looks. Are they all going to play DI basketball – who knows? – but I’m sure they’re all getting looks and thats not including Williams from Mount or Mount’s 6’9” kid who may also be as well. I haven’t heard much about Regis, Spellman, Nazareth, Xavier or St Edmunds, so I’ll assume they don’t have anyone in this category. In Section 1 AA you have (Wright, Hunds, Allen and Clarke from MV; Calarco and Mason-NR) 6 kids. I’ve never heard anything about the recruitment of Ranglin at Gorton, the big kid at Yorktown, anyone at White Plains or anyone else in Section 1 besides Brickhouse and Watts at Peekskill that I can think of. The sophomore at NR may be getting those looks next year, if not already. If there are others I’m forgetting, please let me know. So before you go putting down the CHSAA A league, keep in mind how it stacks up with Section 1 AA. I think both leagues are great and its a sign of a lack of knowledge to criticize either league or the teams in it.
Your comment about “who watches Iona basketball” shows you don’t know much about the CHSAA. Iona has not had any DI college players lately, but its not for a lack of exposure. Probably half of the teams on Iona or Stepinac’s schedule have a kid getting recruited by DI schools. Therefore, quite often during the year Iona’s kids are getting seen by colleges just by being on the court with other highly recruited players. It happens all the time that a college is watching a game to check out one player and ends up seeing another they like. MV has college coaches at games all the time. Stepinac does as well – I read on this blog a couple weeks ago that the assistant coach from DePaul was at a Stepinac game to check out their sophomore. That won’t happen at any local schools besides MV, and maybe Peekskill, White Plains and .New Rochelle. Iona Prep doesn’t have to have all the talent they have this year for college coaches to see them play.
spellman has the junior – manherst – good player / tough and if he doesn’t get a low d1 look he is definately d2.
also last year blessed sacrament had jared hall who is at loyala md and david samuels, the jr at blessed sacrament will definately land a d-1 school. b.sacrament plays in the “b” so it just goes to show you how much talent there is in the chsaa.
i.e. last night uconn vs. louisville….sosa (rice) and kemba (rice) playing serious minutes – #1 vs. #7 in the country – pretty impressive.
Section 1 BBALL: Greeley is a very good team. They were up on poughkeepsie on the road and almost beat them. Greeley is an excellent team and our Point Guard is an excellent shooter. Matt Townsend is excellent and if he continues to improve till his senior season he will be one of the best players in New York
Hoops Fan,
Thanks for respecting my opinion. I also respect yours and hope my answer is not insulting.
I wasn’t bashing CHSAA A versus Section 1, doing any comparision or looking at who has the most “potential” D1 players (that might be Iona). For the last two years I have enjoyed many CHSAA A games and have this year seen some Section 1 and it is my opinion that after Iona Prep, Bishop Ford, Mount and Stepinac, there have been no other teams in CHSAA A that are on the competitive level of the four I mentioned. Check the scores at leaguelineup and you will see the routs that occur whenever any of the above four play any of the other CHSAA A teams. I am a basketball fan and the more competitive games I can see, regardless of how many D1 are on one team versus another, the better.
You mentioned some past players. Rodriguez I believe is in his third or fourth year at Iona college. I am strictly talking aboutthe last two years CHSAA A.
Whether all of the names you mentioned are being considered for D1 I don’t know but I wish them all well and warn make sure you get your education first. Quite often though there are overblown estimations of talent level being thrown out there. A player you mentioned Chris Ranglin, I have recently seen a few times and he is a top player and a real talent. Based on some of the names you mentioned getting looks, then Chris should definitely be getting looks. He is good.
My rhetorical question was “Normally who watches Iona basketball but their loyal fans?”. This is not an insult but you can choose to answer it as stated not paraphrased as you did “who watches Iona basketball” which gives the impression of demeaning Iona fans. There is a difference. I’m saying most fans didn’t know much about Iona Prep basketball until this talented crew came along.
It is rare for a CHSAA or Section 1 A team to have 4 D-I prospects at the same time. The norm is probably 1 or 2 every so often (e.g., Otis Hill at Pleasdntville, Alejo at Mount, and Tony and Melquan at Stepinac). One talented player will attract college coaches in a world with blogs, video, Mike Quick on MSG, etc.
wat,
I would agree that most casual Westchester fans over the past 5 years probably didn’t hear much about Iona’s basketball team, certainly not in relation to their football team until last season with their nice run. What most casual Westchester fans think is definitely not foremost on the mind of any serious basketball player. They’d rather play in a league with great competition where college coaches will see you play. I’m not an Iona fan, so I didn’t take it as an insult at all. I was only pointing out in reference to your question, that most college basketball coaches who recruit this area are aware of who Iona Prep is based on who they play, if not on who is on their team. If you take into consideration, the 8 teams above I mentioned with kids who are getting recruited/looked at (admittedly I don’t know about offered scholarships) and Spellman with the other kid who was mentioned above, that is 9 of 13 CHSAA A teams with kids being recruited by DI schools. Thats an impressive number and thats part of why many kids choose to play in that league. This discussion originally started because you said the kids are only getting more attention playing at Iona than if they would’ve played at Sleepy Hollow because Iona happens to be good this year. I don’t think that is remotely true, so I added some information that may make you reconsider. Hence the information about the talent all around the A league.
wat,
In regards to Ranglin, I agree I think he is an excellent player, certainly one of the best in Westchester. I haven’t heard anything about his recruitment. He has a coach in Rizzo, who certainly knows some people, so I would expect that he’s in much better shape than he was before Rizzo took over. Prior to Rizzo taking over, Ranglin would’ve been a prime example of a kid who would’ve benefitted by playing at an Iona or Stepinac. Imagine all the looks Ranglin would’ve got playing alongside Tony Taylor in the backcourt at Stepinac last year. Or alongside Taylor and Bolding two years ago. Not to mention how much his game would’ve improved playing against those guys everyday in practice and facing serious talent almost every game.
I’m very interested to see what kind of talent Rizzo lures to Gorton. This year’s team isn’t loaded with talent, but they play very hard and clearly are buying into his way of doing things. A couple bad losses in the first year are to be expected, but beating White Plains was huge for them. Clearly, there’s plenty of talent in Yonkers for Gorton to be a power along with the MV, WP, NR, Peekskill, Stepinac and Iona programs.
NYC Hoops,
Having 4 DI prospects isn’t rare in the Section 1 A league, its never happened before. Otis Hill is probably the only DI player to come out of Pleasantville in the past 30 years. Otis was a great player though – being 6’8” 230 in high school – colleges will find you. MV certainly has had 4 DI prospects (they probably do this year), White Plains a couple years ago did it, New Rochelle may have had 4 at some point. I can’t say it happens all the time in the CHSAA A league, but Stepinac did it routinely years ago in the 80’s and early 90’s. Mount did it in the 90’s. Hayes has had 4 DI prospects a few years ago. St Johns Prep and LaSalle had probably 3 DI prospects each a few years ago.
I agree that one super talented player will attract colleges no matter where you are if you’re talking about an Otis Hill, Danya Abrams, Mark Blount-type of talent. But if you’re a talented guard, whose skills aren’t as easily quantifiable, I think playing in the right system with a good amount of competition/exposure is critical. A good example is another kid from Pleasantville, Kyl Jones. He was about 6’3”, very strong, great athlete. He was a 4 year star at Pleasantville, scored a ton of points, but spent all of his time playing in the post against Class B competition. He ended up going to a DII school somewhere in the Northeast. There is no doubt in my mind had he been playing at a school where his skills would’ve been tested more (WP, Stepinac, Iona, NR) and the competition-level better he could’ve been a DI player. If Kyl Jones was 6’8” he wouldn’t have had to worry about coaches finding him or improving his skills that much, but at 6’3” he needed every advantage he could’ve gotten.
new panther, nice try, maybe next time
Hoops I haven’t seen this kid from Gorton play. If he is not being recruited too heavily. He should consider going to Westchester CC. They have been sending kids all over and this year they will be sending Jarrod Famous to pretty much any school he wants.
yeah, WCC is a good option. A lot of kids these days do a post-grad year, maybe that would work too. I wonder if Kevin has any info on his recruitment. It would be interesting to hear.