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I wouldn’t say Pearl River was the most talented team I’ve seen this season. But honestly, it’s definitely among the toughest.
The Pirates withstood four quarters of Hastings’ runs and momentum swings and grinded out a 56-48 win at home yesterday. It took Hastings coming back from 11 points down in the first half and tying it with 2:49 left for Pearl River to finally step on the gas and put the game away. It held the Yellow Jackets scoreless after that, and really without one good look at the basket, for another victory in what’s becoming an impressive season at Pearl River.
Yesterday’s win put it at 10-1. Keep this up and the Pirates could lock themselves into a No. 2 seed in Class A, which means a smooth road to the County Center and no Peekskill at least until the final.
I must say, I left Pearl River yesterday a huge fan of this team. You can talk all you want about teams who have that dominant scorer or bruising big man. I’ll take the 7-8 players Pearl River used yesterday. All of them can handle the ball, defend one-on-one or in a zone, runs plays and each knocks down clutch shots. There’s so much maturity and unselfishness on this team. It’s really fun to sit back and watch.
Eddie McGuinness, who I got to see a lot of during the Empire State Games, has continued to develop his game as a playmaker and especially a shooter. He had 18 yesterday, including three 3-pointers. Two of those 3s came at critical times — first held back a Hastings rally that closed the gap to two in the third; the other was after Brian Farragher tied the game at 49-49 with 2:49 to go with a 3-pointer. McGuinness responded in a matter of seconds with a 3 and the Pirates never looked back.
Rob Ferreira impressed me with his ability to shoot off the dribble, and Matt Grossbard gave me a glimpse of how explosive he can be, although he scored only 11 points. Stephen Putnick defends and fights for every loose ball and Mike McManus is another tough matchup who rebounds and defends extremely well.
I could see Pearl River losing a game or two in the league but not much else. As for Hastings, I saw why its been able to have some success this year against Class B teams.
Not many teams have a matchup for Alby Skrelji, who coach Dennis Hurlie believes has improved as much from last season as anybody in the section. I might agree. I saw Hastings twice last year and barely remember Skrelji. Now, he seems to have his hands on every rebound. Yesterday he had 21 points and 15 rebounds. Ferreira did a nice job denying him the ball in the fourth, which is largely why the Yellow Jackets couldn’t take the lead and win.
Farragher didn’t have his best game shooting. But you could see how he could easily score 30 on a good night. His shot is crisp and he releases the ball so quickly, he’s difficult to defend on the perimeter. He’s got a good swagger to him. If you’re a playoff team and Hastings is coming into your gym, you have to be worried about Farragher. Aside from those two, Hastings has some nice role players; certainly enough to advance in sectionals if Skrelji and Farragher can get hot.
I’ll be at Scarsdale-New Rochelle today and will check back in after. First, a quick look back at last night’s action:
Briarcliff 76, Croton-Harmon 58: No surprise here. Joe Lombardi had 23 points and Alex Gulotta added 19, including five 3-pointers. Word is that Croton has lost Alex Judge for a significant period of time with an injury. That’s unfortunate. He was have a great season.
Bronxville 54, Blind Brook 51: Tough loss here for the Trojans, who’ve lost back to back games after rattling off eight straight. They led by six entering the fourth quarter. Chris Dennen scored 25 with eight assists for Bronxville.
Yonkers 55, Pelham 51, OT: Another impressive win for Yonkers, once the afterthought of Section 1 hoops. London Reyes was 4 for 4 from the line overtime and scored 16 points. Reyes and Francis DeLuca hit 3-pointers in the final minute of regulation to force OT. Yonkers is 7-6. It went 0-40 the previous two seasons.
Ardsley 60, Eastchester 58: Where did Ardsley come from? Big win here over the Eagles despite 34 points from Mickey Abbatiello. Matt Stein had 24 for Ardsley, and Mike Zee added 21.
Sleepy Hollow 48, Nanuet 45: Finally, the Horsemen are on the right side of a close game. This is a talented team that had lost nine in a row — including scores of 60-54, 66-61, 62-60, 57-55, 71-63, 56-48. I was at the 71-63 defeat to Irvington and that one went down to the wire despite the score. Unreal. There’s still time here for Sleepy Hollow to salvage a playoff spot and, after that, who knows what could happen.
Irvington 53, Albertus Magnus 42: Amazing comeback in the second by the Bulldogs, who trailed by nine at the break. Brittain Purcelle had 24 and Nick Nedwick added 16. A game Irvington doesn’t win last season, no question.
Random thoughts: Jason Mendell scored 22 to lead Byram Hills past Westlake. … Lincoln defeated DeWitt Clinton. … Rye Neck defeated Valhalla 58-55 to improve to 5-7. If the Panthers, who went winless last season, beat Bronxville tomorrow, they’ll clinch a playoff berth in Class B. … Robert Johnson scored 29 points as Tuckahoe routed Solomon Schechter. … Edgemont handed Woodlands another defeat. … Pleasantville held Putnam Valley to 25 points and won another ugly one.
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Kevin, What do you think about the new Head Football Coach at Ramapo? Will he be able to turn them into the NY State Class AA power they should be, with all the talent they have?
McGuinness is overrated. Everyone who knows PR knows it’s Grossbard’s team. You putting McGuinness on the preseason 2nd team shows
1. You don’t know Rockland
2. You fell in love with that little Empire State team
The Yonkers-Ardsley-Pelham-Eastchester-Rye-Woodlands-Edgemont league looks real competitive this year. Who’s the frontrunner?
Rockland
And they said I was a Rockland hater…wow(let me guess..your from Suffern? no.. Magnus..right)
I don’t hate PR. I’m just trying to point who the best player on that team is and if I said it too bluntly then whatever.
There are 2 words that drive me crazy. They are “talent” and “athletes”.
Just in this blog alone “talent” is used twice.
first in reference the PR B-Ball team….
“I wouldn’t say Pearl River was the most talented team I’ve seen this season. But honestly, it’s definitely among the toughest.”
...and again in reference to the new head coach from Ramapo…
“Will he be able to turn them into the NY State Class AA power they should be, with all the talent they have?”
Now knowing that Pearl River is 99% white and Ramapo is 99% black, is what people are trying to say is that black students = talent & athletes?
It’s not just here, but in the mainstream media as well. I think I noticed it the most during all of the college bowl games.
Rockland,
You are very shallow. If you dislike a kid like McGuinness you don’t know hoops or kids. He’s a very good player and a leader in every aspect of the game. Just ask his AAU coach, (Buckley-Sleepy) and Empire State team ( Thom-Croton) coaches what they think….or you might check with the 50 plus college coaches who have recruited him…..you aren’t a disgruntled Albertus fan jealous of the succss thus far for Pearl River,,,,are you?
As far as this being Grossbards team…he is a good player with lots of good points and some weaknesses like every othe HS player….leave your personal dislikes (jealousies) of one kid off these blogs
High School Hoop Fan
Wow. I guess noone is allowed to favor Grossbard over your son.
Thank you mrs mcguiness for that very informative rant. Nobody ever said that they didnt ike eddie just that he is overrated (true). Ive heard that he is going to Middlebury College. Where exactly is that? So much for Division 1 i guess. As for 50 plus college coacges recruiting him thats a joke. If you think hes on the same level as Mookie Jones or Kevin Jones your just a joke as well. The kids over at Albertus could honestly not care less that eddie is gone. Clearly they have moved on and are playing hard without him.
O and Grossbard is 10o times better than Eddie in every aspect of the game.
rockland,
Enough with your clearly biased opinions, please. McGuinness is in no way overrated. He’s an excellent player, as is Grossbard. I never raised the question of who is better. Nobody mentioned Division I, Mookie Jones or anything else. You did. Putting down one player to raise another is childish. You clearly have a connection with this team. Eddie played better yesterday. Grossbard is a tremendous player. Let’s leave it at that. (and trust me, if this argument was going the other way, I’d write exactly the same thing).
Oh, and by the way, where is Middlebury? Try looking at the top of the U.S. News reports on college rankings. You’ll find it there.
Mountie Fan
I told you I liked Rockland and now you see what happened..
The balance of power shifted and Rockland fans are hating on one another. If you like I will say something bad about Rockland Basketball in an effort to re-unite the Rockland fans against me.
I must be missing something with Mcguinness and Magnus or Suffern.
CAN”T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?
Look at Big Bad Bear and Dr E, I hear they are best buddies now…we can all learn from them!
If putting 1 player on the Class A all-section 2nd team and leaving the other off doesn’t say that the first player is better than the other then I don’t know what does. Care to explain that decision?
And this has nothing to do with hate for Rockland or anybody it’s just some analysis of 1 team.
Hey Kevin is bronxville class b or c?
I am from Westchester,follow high school basketball pretty closely and I remember McGuinness from Albertus as a sophomore, does anyone know the real story behind why he left for Pearl River?
Kevin, Kevin, Kevin calm down. P-ville started a whole chant that a player was overrated (Lombardi?) and I didn’t see any backlash from you. You basically proved his point that there’s something between you and that empire state team. I know you can do better Kevin. Keep up the good blogging.
Knight Fan
Your right, P’Ville woke the sleeping Giant(one of their many chants) but that one..lol..cost them… 24pts and 11 rebounds. But, that was all in good fun(I guess). I dont think Kevin has or had anything withe the ESG team at all. But to Kevins credit he has always chimed in when someone gets bashed on the blog. Especially when you can draw a line to a comment that he(Kevin) made.
Maybe next P’Ville should chant Underated and see if that works..lol!
Or BearFan we can chant “28-0!”,maybe “SHUTOUT!”, How do those sound?
It’s all good fun my many “25-7!” and “14-7!” were tough to listen to for two years so we gotta give you guys a few years worth, plus with us being heavy underdogs no one thought we would have that much to cheer about the other night at the game, but we look to give you another run for your money on the 1st! Maybe we should start chanting Beechum is overrated, only 4pts?? He should be able to muscle Pleasantville around more. Maybe next time you guys can convert one of your dunks? Lombardi has missed 4 in the last two years and Beechum has missed a couple too, Maybe they need Big Bad Bear to lower the rims over there, Heck that maybe a few Panthers would be able to dunk then?
Gold Ball:
me and Dr E, were always friends, I do believe I saw him wearing Blue and Orange the other day…
panthers:
I wouldn’t be able to touch the rims, but I will say this: even at my advanced age, I can out shoot any of the Panthers I saw the other day…(ok, maybe not dondero)...but the rest of them? please…
swishmaster,
Pelham beat Eastchester, Pelham beat Ardsley, Arsdley beat Eastchester, Eastchester beat Yonkers, Yonkers beat Pelham, Woodlands sucks.
Pelham (Can’t run, great half court defense)
Ardsley (Solid team with Zee, better suited for high scoring games)
Eastchester (Mickey, Mickey, and…. Mickey)
Yonkers (Can run and could outscore a bunch of teams)
Edgemont (Can’t score)
Rye (without that guard who graduated, awful)
Woodlands (awful)
once again the bcliff fans make this about them
Gold ball…..we just argue teams…not players.
Bashing players is low!!!! I don’t think we would go that far!!!!!
I’ll get back to you next week….keep an eye on the Rockland teams…..even though they may not be as talented, some of them play real hard…..(good Basketball)
Suffern plays a few teams from Upstate this weekend…..(Tournament)....Washingtonville, Minisink Valley, and New Paltz..
Do you know anything about these teams…
hank,
I could tell u the entire story of why eddie left albertus but its just not something that any of the parties involved would want repeated
South beat North 50-48. Kevin Mcahey and Nygel Satterfield had good games for South. South was down 48-47 late in the fourth before Scott Romanello put them ahead with a three point play with 14 seconds left. Souths defense held from there.
Falcon Alum
Why didn’t Conway play for South?
It seems that hastings is close in everygame, but just can’t close the gap, and it seems that they have talent.
pearl river, VERY polished team, behind the devils, i think they are the next best team in class A.
briarcliff, gonna win section B
Irvington, a sleep i think, even if purcelle and nedwick score all their points, their defense seems to be solid. if they had a decent big man, they could challenge briarcliff.
Kevin, what is your personal opinion on Nanuet?
This is intriguing. Why did McGuiness leave Albertus?? Repeat it, if you know Facts….Thats what blogs are for….
Well if you know what really happened with McGuinness then I am sure many other people do, so why not just share what you know? Your hiding behind a blog name anyway nobody knows who you are?
One more question, Magnus’ girls coach is named Joe McGuinness, any relation?
Mountie Fan,
Conway is suspended by the team for getting into some trouble. Not sure for how long. Ive heard five games and ive heard the whole season. I really dont think they miss much when hes not out there because when ive seen them play the vikings seem to play better when he isnt in the game. Either way it doesnt look like he’ll be playing in the game on thursday.
Westchester,
I just feel like its no ones business but his own. If anyone knows why he left and wants to step up they can feel free.
Yes Joe McGuinnes is Eddies uncle.
Thanks Falcon Alum
what are your thoughts on Nygel Satterfield and Jordan Gallager..
Nygel is a quick guard that can get into the lane but is selfish at times. As for Jordan if he isnt hitting from the outside he is pretty much a non-factor but when he gets it going he can light you up for 20.
falcon alum …..You never seem to have a problem speaking your mind….Why so secretive now?.....Did Albertus throw him out or did leave because of some basketball problem?
Falcon Alum,
How do you think Suffern’s chances are against South on thur
Gold Ball, BBB is right we were never enemies, he has always idolized me. As for the blue and orange, what can I say, it was ugly shirt day at work.
Falcon Alum
What are the key matchups in the South/Suffern game on Thurday?....You seem to know a lot about these teams..
Falcon Alum,
How did you find out about the suspension that Conway received? Im just curious.
Mountie Fan,
I dont see Suffern having a problem taking care of South unless Gallagher gets hot from the outside.
Neutral,
That was the word going around the South kids at the game.
Bronxville is a class B school. Do we know what teams have qualified for the sectionals yet? Aren’t there thre different criteria??
Yes, Bronxville is Class B. To qualify for the playoffs, you must win 40% of your overall games, or 50% vs. your class (or your class and all larger classes).
Without Conway South does not have a chance. I have seen Nigel play when he was on JV and he is a ball hog. He is too small to drive down the lane that worked in junior high but not on varsity. It is a shame about Conway he is a good player who unfortuntaely likes to party a lot. South is in trouble on Thurs. The proof is that they should have blown away North and didn’t.
Mcginnes left because of selfish reason. He knew that last years team was going no where so he abandoned his teamates.
Frank G, Hopp Fan, and Bear Fan (which ever one posted critisizing me), Plus a couple of other nondescript posters,
It seems like the cat’s got your tongue. I posted about a month ago how good Brian Farragher was, and how he’s talented enough to be able to score on anyone. You all proceeded to personally attack me based on that opinion. Instead of questioning my opinion, and offering reasons why I was wrong, you showed your true ignorance and simply attacked me personally. I’m wondering why when Kevin writes basically the same thing when he says “Farragher didn’t have his best game shooting. But you could see how he could easily score 30 on a good night. His shot is crisp and he releases the ball so quickly, he’s difficult to defend on the perimeter. He’s got a good swagger to him.” You’ve all chosen not to attack Kevin. Could it be that you now realize you were wrong, and have forgotten to apologize publicly, or just that you lost your, um, manhood, and are afraid to attack Kevin the same way you attacked me? Either way, I’m sure you’ll all come on here and start attacking me again, instead offering an intelligent response as to why your all cowards, and haven’t dispareged Kevin and his comments.
Go Pearl River I love those boys they show a lot of heart
panthers
I guess your one of those “little” panther football players that got too much of the green panther cool-aide to drink. Dude check your own post,” It’s all good fun my many “25-7!†and “14-7!†were tough to listen to for two years so we gotta give you guys a few years worth” You lost in Football 2 out of the last 3 years and now 4 in a row in Hoops(including the playoff spanking). Plus about 3 20 pt thrashings on the Hoop court.
Are you starting a moral victory column for yourself? Beechum and Lombardi ? you should be sending them thank you cards for not playing football, together they average more than your whole team!
Keith Fagan
Here are the reasons that your wrong(so you can sleep at night):
1)Has the player ever scored 30 points?
2)Is he averaging 20 pts?
3)” ” ” 15 pts ?
Dont you think if someone could easily score 30 pts that at some point they would have? When exactly is this “good night” going to happen? and “if” it does who will it be against?
4) Keith, you try to come off as an authority..your not!
The reasons not to rebut Kevin:
1) Kevin does a great job and trys to say as many good positive things about as many kids and teams as he can.
2) He is not hyping his home town!
3) Saying he could score 30 on a good night(many kids score 30 on a good night) is one thing. Saying that a player can score on anyone is way over the top!
4) Kevin gets it …you dont ! Kevin knows its about the kids…As evidenced by your post, you think its about you!
Bear Fan, but we have won 3 of the last 5. If the trophy was in your case you’d be able to sse that. How far do you want to go back? When I first moved to Pleasantville I didn’t know that the trophy was exchanged since it never left our trophy case.
As far as Joe and Kyle playing football, they didn’t so your speculation as to what would have happened is meaningless. It didn’t happen it’s not worth discussing.
Hopp Fan,
None of what you said is relevant. When did I say he’s averaging 30, 20, 15, whatever, so why are you mentioning his scoring average? I said he can score on anyone, how is that different than Kevin saying he can score 30 on “a good night”. If he can score 30 on a good night, then clearly he’d be able to score on anyone. And, if you really think “a lot” of kids score 30, then you really have no clue about high school basketball. Your reasons to not
“rebut” Kevin comparing them to me are laughable. I said attack, you said rebut. Funny how you change things. Had you simply tried to “rebut” what I said in my original post it would not have come off as a personal attack that it was. You still haven’t given any reasons to state why Farragher would NOT be able to score on anyone, or 30 on a “good night”. Have you even seen him play? I doubt it. I think you just like to attack people who can’t ban you from this blog, and that’s why when Kevin says basically the same thing I said a month ago, you cower and refuse to repeat your attacks.
Dr E
Silly me I should have just addressed or cc’d the post to you rather than “panther”. I know its not your style to Knock kids by name or attempt to on this blog. While I cant hold you accountable for the Moronic P’Ville fans who rant stupidly on this blog.(I wouldnt want to be held respondsible for the “occasional” Bear bloggers) Forgive me if I indulge them on their level from time to time.
As I have seen you forced to wallow in the mud or blog scum on occasion yourself. Would you like to shift discussions to Feb. 1st now or wait?
Ive watched Farragher play the past two years and he is a very good player. He has a good outside shot and can go to the hoop. He is a good finisher inside and can hit from the line when he gets fouled. I think it would have been better for Kevin to say he could drop 20 on any given night because you really have to be a great player to score 30 points (Purcelle, the Jones boys, the Briarcliff buddies, etc).
Keith Fagan
As I said you dont get it! The player you speak about has done neither 30 pts or scored on anyone? Saying you can score on anyone is anyone(as you would be quick to point out Rice, MV, Peekskil, etc.) The player you mention is not top 20 in class “B” and has had more single digit games than 30pt ones. I have seen him play, he is a good player, he is tough, works hard on the court and shoots well. He is to be comended!
A good night? Keith, come on, you know enough about basketball to know that it aint gonna be a good night if your playing Peekskill and Mookie’s guarding you, or Stepinac and your guarding Tony T and vice-versa.
Are you telling me that their are more “players that can score on anyone” or more kids that have “scored 30 on a good night”?
falcon alum is right! Did I just agree with a Rockland guy?
Falcon alum
Thanks, well put. You obviously get it!
Gold Ball I think you should move to Rockland Now….
Keith, your not Kevin. Enuff said.
does anyone know anything about upstate teams…Washingtonville, Minisink Valley and New paltz???
YOU GUYS ARE STARTING TO SOUND LIKE THE RED SOX, YOUVE WON LAST YEAR AND HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR A FEW YEARS NOW AND ALL OF A SUDDEN YOUR THE GREATEST THING EVER, WHERE WERE YOU ALL THOSE OTHER YEARS WHEN YOU HAD TO DRIVE OVER TO PLEASANTVILLE JUST TO GET CLOSE TO A GOLD BALL!
CHECK THE TROPHY CASE OUTSIDE THE GYM THERES A BUNCH OF THEM IN THERE, THATS ALSO WHERE WE HAPPEN TO BE DISPLAYING THE FOOTBALL TROPHY THIS YEAR.
YOU GUYS ARE STARTING TO SOUND LIKE THE YANKEES, YOU HAVENT WON IN RECENT YEARS AND ARE CELABRATING A FOOTBALL SEASON WHERE YOU WERE NO BETTER THAN 3RD BEST. THOSE GOLDBALLS YOU HAVE ARE VERY, VERY OLD AND WERENT LARGELY TO DO WITH PVILLE KIDS.
IF YOU WANT TO SEE AN UP TO DATE VERSION COME OVER TO BRIARCLIFF AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE SOME RECENT SECTIONAL FOOTBALL AND BASEBALL CHAMPIONSHIP TROPHIES. NOT TO MENTION GIRLS SOCCER! WE HAVE THE BASKETBALL TROPHY FROM THE OTHER NIGHT WHERE WE USUALLY KEEP THE FOOTBALL TROPHY!
Go Pirates
2 Rockland Coaches say that Eddie McGuinnes
is the best player in Rockland County by far…..
Any thoughts….
I dont think he’s the best player but I would say he’s top 5. I still don’t think he is even the best player on his own team.
HEY TO BEARS FAN, YOUR A COMPLETE IDIOT CAUSE WE DA BEST. GIVE ME A BREAK WE CAN CHANT SO MANY SCORES OF TIMES WE BEAT YOU FOOS. YALL A BUNCH OF IDIOTS.
get over it,
Please don’t believe Hopp Fan. Never said I was Kevin, nor did I ever pretend to be.
Hopp Fan,
I don’t it? LOL Look in the mirror buddy, that’s the only person in your world that doesn’t get it.
Falcon Alum who would be in your top 5 with him?
Will the Pleasantville fan who keeeps posting as “the number one bear” in order to make Briarcliff fans look like idiots please stop. It’s getting a little tired.
Keith Fagan
It would appear that its you against the world!
“YOU” compared yourself to Kevin and asked me why:
“why your all cowards, and haven’t dispareged Kevin and his comments”.
Keith,
For someone who is supposed to be in the education field, I would suggest that you no longer post on this blog. Your comments, references to manhood, and lack of accountability to your own dumb remarks are painting a bad picture. For someone that is “supposed” to be a little more intelligent and have some sense of maturity…dude, your killing yourself here. If you dont think so, ask someone with a clue to help you out! Please
Dr E
Thank You!
Mountie Fan,
Im bored and I’m at work so I decided to do a top 10 with all this considered (skills, attitude, etc.) Anyone can feel free to add or subtract players to the list. List is just players from Rockland.
1. Brian Jones – Nyack
2. Ryan Sheridan – Tappan Zee
3. Matt Grossbard – Pearl River
4. Eddie McGuinness – Pearl River
5. Evan Schrek – Suffern
6. Brian Connolly – Tappan Zee
7. Jamal Little – Spring Valley
8. Edwin Perez – North Rockland
9. Pat Fuchs – Albertus
10.Kevin McCahey – South
Seriously the number one bear, you and your idiotic posts need to stop…somebody ban this foool
Mountie Fan,
You left out
1)James Dondero- Pleasantville
Sorry, couldnt resist…lol
Gold Ball….....The post was from Falcon Alum
The request wasn’t for your stupitiy
Get a life…
Mountie Fan,
You left out
1)James Dondero- Pleasantville
Sorry, couldnt resist…lol
How is that even funny? This joke makes no sense what so ever,there isn’t even a rivalry between Pleasantville and anyone in Rockland. So unless im overloooking the obvious your and idiot. Kevin should play Tony Reali and “MUTE” you!
All this arguing over MCGuniness and Grossbard I dont get. They form arguable the best backcourt in rockland and definetly one of the best in their class. When I look at these two players I see a gifted athletic slasher who can hit a three and great defender in Grossbard, and a well skilled basketball player in McGuiness (goor defender, great passer, great court vision, can take u off the dribble to get to basket or pull up) They are two great players but I just want to know who and why is McGuiness overrrated. I am not associated with PR at all. He can play for me any day of the week.
panthers
I will help you out, since other than Dr E, you P’Ville folks seem to be a little slow on the draw.
Pleasantville beat Suffern by 10 pts in the P’Ville Tourney(Dondero being their top player according to the Pre-season rankings). So in the argument for “Supremecy of Rockland HS Hoops” I have noted to those Suffern Fans that claim that they are #1 in Rockland that in fact Pleasantville should be ranked as the best of the Rockland Hoop squads.
Gold Ball I don’t get it? What is your obsession with P’Ville ….you do know that P’Ville is not in Rockland County….
Also explain to me who posted a claim that Suffern was #1 in Rockland….....except maybe Kevin..
You must be on HEAVY Medication…..
Falcon Alum
We can’t even have a conversation about Rockland basketball without Gold Ball sticking his nose in with stupid insults…..
Mountie Fan –
Minisink is in the draw and they did beat Newburgh, who beat Iona P – so they have some game when playing right.
The Mounites need to take care of business up there – it’s not a great field and the Suffern needs to build momentum if they are going to be a player in the Section tournament this year.
Unbiased
What about Washingtonville or New paltz? Do you know anything about them?
Falcon Alum,
First off Kyle Florio is better than all but Brian Jones. He was the MVP of the Pearl River tournament and was by far the best player on the court. Pat Fuchs is also better than Edwin Perez, Connolly just by watching every single player on this list. Connolly was shut down by Florio in the PR tournament and scored almost all of his points when the second team was in and was held without a 3-pointer.
Mountie Fan –
Washingtonville is AA but genrerally not a contender in Section 9. New Paltz is B (I think – Rye beat them in football) but again not a force. Suffern may have their hands full with Minisink but truth be told it would be pretty bad to get dropped by the other two.
falcon alum,
i agree with rockland. not having kyle florio in the top 5 let alone the top ten is criminal. he was the MVP of the PR tourney and you still have 6 players from that tourney above him. I understand that all these players are good but no one is as much of a threat on both the inside and outside. he is an exceptional three point shooter and an even better rebounder. he is the best rebounder in rockland in my opinion.
So when we asked why McGuiness left Albertus we get one honest reply from Viking… “A selfish move because Albertus Magnus was going no where”...So I guess playing with Grossbard was the path to a team going somehere?.......Who is the better player on Pearl River? All I know is at this point Max Prep has Grossbard with 10 more points total than McGuiness…....I pick Grossbard unless somebody can tell me more…...You Rockland people complain always about lack of print…Let us know what the story is over there without clamming up and we may be more interested in basketball “across the river”...otherwise stop complaining about the Westchester coverage..
Rockland
So we’re going to rank players based on performance in 1 tournament only? The whole season matters.
Kyle florio deserved to be in the falcon alums top ten for his rebounding alone…and he held connoly in check when they played and when they played sheridan only had 4 points because of this kid on suffern faceguarding him…i believe his name was faccile or facele
In my opinion the rankings by falcon alum are pretty good. Kyle Florio should not be on the list because of one tournament. he is only the 4th leading scorer on his own team at about 8.5 points a game. Every player on that list is at least 4 points higher then that per game
You 3 are the same person. You used the same email in your names. You didn’t think we would believe 3 Kyle Florio fans would all come here within minutes of each other, lol.
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if im not mistaken Kyle Florio is one of the leading rebounders in rockland county and those rebounds didnt all come in the PR tourney, did they? becuase i kno he did get at least 30 rebounds in that tourney. and if you think he is only an inside presence you should probably go watch tommorows game @suffern when they play south and then comment
i think suffern has the league in hand if they beat south tommorow
Na Im not from pleasantville are you kidding me, you have got to be kidding Dr. E your just jealous were the best.
the number one bear
Please tell me that you are a product of either the Briarcliff or Pleasantville School Districts from 1st grade?
I have coached many kids at Pocantico Hills , in baseball and basketball, and you better not be one of mine, because we do not act this way… I know first hand how each kid, girls and boys, agonizes over which High School to choose to attend after 8th grade. Having the choice of Briarcliff, Sleepy Hollow, or Pleasantille High School, all excellent schools, makes the decision very difficult….....I do not know where you’re from yet, but you better STOP being an embarrassment to whatever school you do currently attend..
Ight then I understand ill stop writin on the blog, sorry to everyone fo bein an embarassment and makin my school look bad even though i dont think my posts are that bad this will be my last post, sorry my bcliff faithful im done sorry
no one is denying that florio is a good rebounder but you cant be considered one of the top ten players in rockland while averging eight points per game
Can somone please explain Hastings and Sleepy Hollow to me …Are these the two of the most inconsistent teams or is it my imagination?
Finally that 4th grader is off this blog, hopefully he doesn’t come back with a new name
Someone mentioned to me today in a conversation about Pearl River that McGuinness left Magnus and yet his father is the Athletic Director at Magnus. Is this true?
thats his uncle joe
sleepy hollow and hastings are having a tough time scoring and closing out games
I had a chance to see sleepy hollow and hastings this year both against albertus. Hastings has two good players but the rest of the supporting cast is a little week. they have a nice inside out game with alby and farragher. the only thing is that although they have a good record, the only team that they beat that is worth talking about is irvington. i saw sleepy hollow tonight in a game which they lost to albertus 67-54 but it wasnt even that close. albertus was up at least 15 for most of the game and up 20 at the end when the coach put the subs in and the sleepy coach left in his starters. i believe jamal lyde sat out with an injury and he’s their best player. they seem to have talent and its a real mystery to me y they havent won more games.
falcon alum
Is uncle “Joe” the reason McGuiness had to leave your beloved non-contender Albertus? Answer the questions or shut up and go away like the Hastings know it all who was shouted down….... Only the facts and no BS please. We want your inside info and not your blow hard opinions…We all know how good Hastings and Albertus are in your opinion..Tell us something we don’t know, like why Albertus’ best player choose to go to Pearl River?...We keep getting closer to the truth as long as we keep asking…
First of all hopper fan, someone asked why sleepy hollow and hastings are so inconsistent and i gave my opinion. Second i think hastings sucks they just have a couple players worth talking about. And third, since you didnt say please and cant act like a civilized person, im just gonna keep my mouth shut. Actually if you can read someone from South summed it up pretty well in one sentence why Eddie left albertus earlier.
i would just like to let everyone know i am not in “4th grade” i am actually a senior at briarcliff high school,and hopefully i will be going to college next year then i can change my name to “number one WCC fan!!! wooo hooooo!!!!
You guys are all idiots, i own all of you. Schwapp is god i run this blog…every1 get oof this and bow down to the king
SCHWAPP
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SCHWAPP = the number one bear
Conway definetly let us down. Resisting arrest is not something to laugh about. Doug has always been a big partier and now there are reprecussions because of a party that got out of hand with the police. Even though he is on my team I think he should have been suspended the rest of this season so he doesn’t do it again for next year.
All this time I was hoping that “the number one bear” was a fan of the Brewster Bears…Oh well, I will just have to go with Dr E’s theory!
Eddie leaving albertus had nothing to do with his uncle joe.
He chose to leave because he felt that he could gain better exposure and play on a better team if he left albertus and went to pearl river. As of right now, it looks like he was right too. At PR he fits in well with their team cheistry and creates aargubly one of the best backcourts in Section 1 with Grossbard.
Hopp Fan,
You are clearly an idiot, have no clue what you are talking about, and continue to hide behind a screen name. If you’d like, let me know who you are, and then we can have an intelligent discussion. Until then you are simply an idiot who can type on a keyboard not worhty of my attention. Please have a nice life, and maybe someday you’ll get a clue.
I was wondering if anyone has seen or heard of the Jeris Dupree guard from leake and watts. I had read somewhere that he was the best player in class “c” but I havent been seeing good numbers by him lately. I have a friend that is a coach over in Westcherster and he tells me he is selfish and just heaves from halfcourt all game. Any information on Dupree or Leake and Watts would be appreciated.
Keith Fagan
With all your dumb commnents, for your own good, you should switch to a screen name “Quickly”. I have come to realize that you are incapable of being part of any intelligent discussion.
I guess Nanuet isnt “anybody” , huh Keith?
KEITH SERIOUSLY GIVE IT UP!!! YOUR POSTS ARE GETTING UP THERE WITH “NUMBER ONE BEAR”, ITS OVER NO BODY CARES ANYMORE IF YOU WANNA CONTINUE YOUR PERSONAL VENDETTA AGAINST “HOPP FAN” WHY DON’T YOU GUYS JUST EXCHANGE EMAIL ADDRESSES OR SOMETHING, I DON’T CARE JUST SHUT UP!!!!!
I believe Magnus has a better chance of beating Briarcliff than Pearl River does of beating Peekskill. You can argue he would get better exposure at Magnus.
Magnus isin’t good at all….there 6-6….
Hopp Fan and COME ON I know Coach Fagan and he’s a great coach and a great guy. You guys are the losers, and you obviosly don’t know what your talking about. Why don’t you two jackoffs get a room together, because your both dumb gay. Hopp Fan you don’t know anything, your just a loser prolly living through what your son does. Get a life.
It just gets worse and worse for Keith!
Now Keiths AAU team is giving testamonials…
Bear Claw,
I dont think that was the point Knight Fan was trying to make. He is saying that although Briarcliff is good, Albertus has a better chance of upsetting Briarcliff than Pearl River does of upsetting Peekskill because Peekskill is just head and shoulders better than any other class A team in section 1. Although a Peekskill – Pearl River game would get the attention of alot of people.
1) I am not gay!
2) I am not doubting anything about Keith,what he says or what he does. But for weeks now him and Hopp Fan have been going back an forth at each other and it keeps coming back to this thing about this kids from Hastings. I’m sure the kids loves it because hes getting mentioned on this blog everyday.I just think for the sake of everyone on the blog that They need to give it up
I understand what he was trying to say but i just think instead of magnus that there is some better teams then them that have a chance to knock off briarcliff…pville, dobbs, among others i would say are better choices then magnus
Bear Claw,
Thats true. I would say the two teams that have the best shot at beating Briarcliff are Lincoln Hall and Pleasantville just based on the way they’ve played Briarcliff this year.
falcon alum
I can tell you this…Its the time of the year that No good team should be taking anyone for granted and “trust me”, the Bears are not. However, High School Basketball is as much “where you play” as it is “who you play” and both of those games where on the road. Lets reserve judgement until those teams play at Briarcliff. Once that happens we will get a better indication.
Keep in mind also that, Lincoln Hall hit 10 3’s in the game they lost to Briarcliff(at Lincoln Hall). How many teams lose by 9 pts in a game where they hit 10 3’s(interesting statistic)?
Also, come Playoffs Briarcliff looks to have a chance to play at home or the County Center(two places their familiar with) not in someone else’s gym. This team still has room for improvement and they know it, last years team did not completely come together until the last few games prior to Sectionals !
Good points Bear Nation. I like it.
kevin- wats your prediction of a score between peekskill and pearl river if they should meet eachother in the playoffs? does PR have any chance?
Bear Nation:
yup, agreed to all that…if and when we get all 5 of our guys hitting on all cylinders, we will be very tough…but as both Lincoln and Burke last year showed, a hot shooting team playing with confidence will give anyone trouble…
I seriously think that Albertus can beat Briarcliff on a good day… ive been to almost all their games and ill be the first to say that they are VERY inconsistant, but if the play to their potiental they can use their bench to wear any team down, including Briarcliff
Big Bad Bear
The key is a more dedicated commitment to Defense, not just in spurts but for a whole quarter or a half, heck a whole game. The problem at times with teams that can score is they tend to rely on it too much.
falcon
Have you seen the Bears as of yet this year?
Bear Claw
Your reading way too much into the first Pleasantville game, watch and see you will feel very different after the second meeting.
have you seen the falcons play?
Magnus can at least match up with Briarcliff. Pearl River would have a huge size disadvantage at all 5 positions against Peekskill.
agreed.. and dont think im bashing briarcliff, i just know that we can do good things when were playin well
Next time we play Pville at our gym i do not expect it to be that close…But there defense gave some of our guys trouble…even though pville doesnt have any stars or much offensive scoring they are very good on D and have a great coach. Also, Beechum has to step up and play to his potential because he is much better then he is playing.
Bear Claw
One Flu struck, one in foul trouble and one had his worst game of the year(offensively). Wait and see!
falcon
I’m not being a wise guy…I am just asking if you have seen them play this year. I did not see the Falcons but, most good teams win when they play great. The really good teams win when they dont play great.
Early on Magnus was a team that was very much on the radar, losses to Irvington and some of the other losses suggest a very up and down team.
Knight Fan,
I disagree when you say Magnus can matchup physically, it suggests that you have not seen Briarcliff this season! I’m not saying that the Bears cannot be beat, anyone can be beaten. But there is not a team in “B” that can matchup physically. Two teams in Class “A” match up and 4 or 5 in “AA”
every game that briarcliff loses or is a close score its lomabardi is hurt, gulotta had his worst night shooting and beechum will never play that bad again…no matter what any other team braircliff will find an excuse to back themselves up every …single….time you just have to learn that
i dont’t think magnus can hang with briarcliff unless they are on fire that day. not physical enough to play with lombardi beechum or muratori down low
falcon alum,
so much for your theory on the south suffern game. i guess you don’t know it all
Bear fan
So let me get this strait. I’m wrong because I haven’t seen Briarcliff. But you’re right even though you haven’t seen Magnus. You can’t have it both ways.
And I never said Magnus would beat Briarcliff I just said they have a better chance to do so than PR beating Peekskill. The fact that other B teams may have a better chance of beating Bcliff is irrelevant.
neutral,
haha ill see you in wisconsin
If anyone remembers Albertus and Briarcliff played last year but had pretty much the same teams. Briarcliff beat Albertus by 10 at Briarcliff. Maybe there is something to the conversation that Albertus can hang with the Cliff. I know that was last year and I’m not saying it would be the same this year. But maybe, juuuust maybe…....
Bear Nation/everyone:
there is no doubt that we need to be more consistently defensively…too many back door lay ups, and open looks…also, I think our starting 5, including Henry, are as physcially tough as they come, but we tend to fall in love with the jumper…one way to break out of a scoring slump is just to get your head under the rim, and rebound..when we commit to rebounding, not to many B teams will keep up…
Whats all this talk of beating Briarcliff? The teams in Class “B” at this point need to concentrate on beating the teams in front of them right now!
ie: Magnus has alot of tough games to play before(and if) they ever play Briarcliff. Worry about winning games and getting a good seed. A team that has to beat Lincoln Hall, North Salem and Briarcliff all on the road(or in the CC) is in Big Trouble!
Magnus did not even make the playoffs last year! I know they are a good team but trust me playoff Basketball is different, and if your counting on “Good or Hot shooting” to win …well…good luck but it doesnt happen very often.
Knight Fan,
I think the point was Briarcliff just might have more of a Physical Advantage over Magnus than Peek does over Pearl River. First of all Brickhouse is about 5’6” although he is likely better(much) than the PR point guard its certainly not a physical mismatch for PR.. There is much more to Physical mismatches than just height! Much more!
The point was never that Magnus will beat Briarcliff, the point being made was that Magnus has a better shot at beating Briarcliff than Pearl River does at beating Peekskill.
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How does Magnus have a Better chance of beating Briarcliff than Pearl River does of beating Peekskil when:
1)Pearl River Has qualified for playoffs
2)Pearl River will likely be a 2 seed(2 home games or a bye and 1 home game)
3)Pearl would likely have an easier road to get to Peekskill and it would be in the Finals(avoid having to “possibly” beat Port Chester first)
4) Magnus has yet to qualify for playoffs,likely to go 1-1 in Nanuet Tournament(a must)could go 0-2(distinct possibility and a disaster)and end up at 6-8 on the season.
5) If they qualify, they will likely have two win 2 road playoff games to get to the CC and even have a shot a Briarcliff, with the possibily of having to beat North Salem(who they dont match up well with) who will likely finish 19-1 or 18-2.
“I think the point was Briarcliff just might have more of a Physical Advantage over Magnus than Peek does over Pearl River.”
There is no way that is true unless Mookie, Watts, and Wattson all just transfered. I’m sure others can back me up on this.
Comprehend
Don’t go by records. Has PR played any team even close to the talent of Peekskill? No.
And roads to the county center is irrelevant. We’re just talking about 2 match-ups. Nothing else.
At this point to talk about Matchups that arent likely to happen is irrelevant!
This started because we were talking about where McGuiness would get the most exposure. Winning the section and going to states gets you the most exposure. So technically you need to play the “what if” card and put McGuiness on the current Magnus team and then see how they would do in winning the section.
Yes all this talk may be all for naught but it’s some good discussion which is what the blogs are for.
Its more than fair to say that without McGuinness, it might be PR scrambling to make the playoffs at 6-6 and Magnus at 10-1…and along with Magnus I believe PR lost at Briarcliif last year as well.
What is your Prediction for the Nanuet Tournament?
Wow 150 responses. I think we should call players overrated more often. jk.
PR should win. Magnus and Nanuet won’t beat them. Maybe TZ could. I’m no expert on any of the teams . I’m a MV fan. But I try to follow as many teams as I can through the blogs and paper. I just made 1 comment on this Magnus/Bcliff/PR thing and I found myself completely involved in it. Funny how things work.
I’m thinking that Iona Prep could beat any team mentioned in the previous 150 posts???? It is all about team depth and most of these teams go 2 or 3 deep?...Tony Taylor had no chance against Iona tonight by himself…...